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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:27 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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It's subject to revision, refinement, and independent scrutiny of course, but unless you can demonstrate how and to what extent mortality data is erroneous then it looks like you're just blowing hot air and making vague insinuations Scot.
But if more are popping their clogs now less will be doing it later on so the data needs correcting and the average needs to be spread over time. :tut:
The mortality figures referenced are based on the monthly averages for the last 10 years. The ONS estimates UK excess deaths for 2020 -- those above the five-year average -- at around 80,000. This suggests that of the roughly 130,000 people whose deaths have been attributed to Covid in the last12 months around 50,000 would have died over that period anyway. This is hardly surprising or controversial given that the median age of UK Covid victims is 82.

If you'd like to dispute this analysis please do so on the basis of some solid evidence rather than blowhardian incredulity.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:33 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 am
It's subject to revision, refinement, and independent scrutiny of course, but unless you can demonstrate how and to what extent mortality data is erroneous then it looks like you're just blowing hot air and making vague insinuations Scot.
But if more are popping their clogs now less will be doing it later on so the data needs correcting and the average needs to be spread over time. :tut:
Sure. Assuming a successfully executed rollout of vaccines and the appearance of herd immunity we will see above-average fatalities turn into below-average fatalities, particularly in the most senior age brackets.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:36 pm

Seasonal flu deaths have fallen through the floor too.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:54 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:36 pm
Seasonal flu deaths have fallen through the floor too.
A side benefit of the measures taken to inhibit the spread of the Covid-19 virus.

In a way we have excess deaths and their opposite every year if we compare the number of deaths in, say, August of each year with January.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by laklak » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:38 pm

I didn't murder nobody, yer Honor, I just mortality displaced the sonofabitch.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:48 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:23 am
It's subject to revision, refinement, and independent scrutiny of course, but unless you can demonstrate how and to what extent mortality data is erroneous then it looks like you're just blowing hot air and making vague insinuations Scot.
But if more are popping their clogs now less will be doing it later on so the data needs correcting and the average needs to be spread over time. :tut:
It's only "popping their clogs" for those in the nether regions... :tea:

The rest of us shuffle off this mortal coil...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by laklak » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm

We "blow out our flip flops"
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Post by Tero » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:24 pm

I always have trouble picturing that mortal coil.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:48 am

I set up an appointment online to get the J&J on Thursday. I won't celebrate until it actually happens. :pray: The Maine.gov website had the wrong phone number for the hospital I signed up at. :fp2: Even Maine forgets about northern Maine. :sshag:

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:08 pm

Vaccines will kill you! If you are one in...500 000?
A senior official from the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has told an Italian daily it is “clear” that there is a link between the AstraZeneca vaccine and a rare form of blood clot but that the cause is still not known, Agence France-Presse is reporting from Rome.

“In my opinion, we can say it now, it is clear there is a link with the vaccine. But we still do not know what causes this reaction,” the EMA head of vaccines, Marco Cavaleri, told Italy’s Il Messaggero newspaper.

The official reportedly told the paper that Europe’s drug regulator would be making a statement on the issue “in the coming hours”.

The EMA said last week it expected to issue an “updated recommendation” on the shot during a meeting of its safety committee that starts today and continues until Friday.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:49 pm

Vaccine of unspecified structure
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..made in chicken eggs. No freeze drying.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:28 pm

More:
The vaccine uses a highly stabilized spike protein from the surface of the coronavirus in order to train the human immune system to recognize and fight infection. This modified spike protein, dubbed HexaPro and engineered by three faculty labs at UT Austin, was found in earlier research to be promising for use in robust vaccines. Other vaccines also use stabilized spike proteins, but this is HexaPro’s first use in a vaccine in human trials.
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Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm

I'm going to take the first one that's stuck in my arm. I don't think that precludes me from taking a better one later, if one becomes available.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:03 pm

They can make me a human pincushion, as far as I'm concerned! Bring 'em on!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by laklak » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:12 am

Once they get this mRna stuff down it's fucking open season on shitty diseases.

Until they transmit the self-destruct code over the 5G Starlink network.
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