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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:50 am

Are they going to trot out the old 'pangolin amplifier' now?

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:24 am

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus ... n-lab.html

According to this the virus could not have escaped from a lab because scientists would not have chosen a sequence computers say is unlikely to work, therefore it must have evolved.

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...uh, scientists use evolution in the lab. :dunno:
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:25 am

They even call it a myth rather than a possibility.

A myth, already! :nono:
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Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:33 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:24 am
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus ... n-lab.html

According to this the virus could not have escaped from a lab because scientists would not have chosen a sequence computers say is unlikely to work, therefore it must have evolved.

--//--

...uh, scientists use evolution in the lab. :dunno:
It's not that I know science better, or that Mr. Weinstein does. It's that the attacks against his positions always rely on misrepresenting what he said, or attacking his character.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:43 am

He's probably wrong. But opposition to the lab origin is a bit hostile to say the least, especially given how ordinary it seemed to many scientists just a year ago.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:52 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
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He's probably wrong. But opposition to the lab origin is a bit hostile to say the least, especially given how ordinary it seemed to many scientists just a year ago.
That's really the only point of his I remember clearly - that opposition to it was WAY out of scale, and it wasn't ready to be taken off the table. He had other points he made, they sounded important and falsifiable, but they didn't catch my attention as much as the overreaction to it.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:15 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
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He's probably wrong. But opposition to the lab origin is a bit hostile to say the least, especially given how ordinary it seemed to many scientists just a year ago.
The opposition from real scientists to the lab origin hypothesis supported by podcast wannabes is not hostile, it's matter of fact, simply saying that expert analysis of the genetic make-up of the virus does not support a lab origin.

Opposition to Bill Maher is, of course, hostile. As it should be... :tea:
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:21 am

The opposition is a matter of fact, or their conclusions are?

It's not fake scientists who treat the lab origin as a perfectly ordinary possibility btw.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:40 am


Cunt wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
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Cunt wrote:Why would you think I don't understand?
Because you keep peddling alternative "science".
Nope. I'm telling you what Weinstein said.
Yeah, alternative science by a non-expert.


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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:49 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:40 am
Cunt wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:45 am
Cunt wrote:Why would you think I don't understand?
Because you keep peddling alternative "science".
Nope. I'm telling you what Weinstein said.
Yeah, alternative science by a non-expert.
...said pErvinalialialia, demonstrating once again that he hadn't heard Weinstein himself.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:53 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:21 am
The opposition is a matter of fact, or their conclusions are?

It's not fake scientists who treat the lab origin as a perfectly ordinary possibility btw.
It is (or was) a possibility, but the consensus of professional virologists, based on analysing the genetics of the virus, is that a natural origin is much more likely. No one is dogmatically ruling out a lab origin, just saying that the evidence doesn't support it. Until new information comes to light, I am not going to indulge conspiracy theories of lab origins with doubtful, often racist motivations by any passing recognition.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:54 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:49 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:40 am
Cunt wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:45 am
Cunt wrote:Why would you think I don't understand?
Because you keep peddling alternative "science".
Nope. I'm telling you what Weinstein said.
Yeah, alternative science by a non-expert.
...said pErvinalialialia, demonstrating once again that he hadn't heard Weinstein himself.
There are countless weirdos on the web I haven't bothered to listen to. Ignoring them should be the default option...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:57 am

JimC wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:53 am
doubtful, often racist motivations by any passing recognition.
You really don't know who you are talking about, I can tell.

Where did you discover the racist element of his hypothesis?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:10 am

It's not a conspiracy theory Jim, and your being unwilling to look into it is fine.

I'll keep being at least somewhat interested in the competing origin stories.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:14 am

You've been watching too many Hollywood movies.
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