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Post by Tero » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:12 pm

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(CNN) - First lady Melania Trump posted a personal essay on the White House website detailing her experience battling Covid-19, which she tested positive for approximately two weeks ago. The first lady also revealed hat her son, Barron Trump, 14, who the White House publicly confirmed at the time had tested negative, eventually tested positive for the virus, a diagnosis the White House did not share.

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:18 am

Gaah :disgust: I had to go see my doctor for routine matters, and so had to wear that frigging mask for hours, it's unpleasant as hell. Not visiting conformist Germany any time soon.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:22 am

Man-up Svarty. ;)
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:23 am

NineBerry wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:38 pm
Coronavirus: Berlin gives the finger to anti-maskers in tourism ad

Berlin's tourism authority has come under fire for its more direct approach in sending a reminder to people to obey coronavirus rules. "A finger-wag for all those without a mask," the elderly woman in the ad warns.
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Well and truly addicted to the kool-aid. Still no absolute scientific evidence. All just conjecture. Our government and the RIVM (which is not the health ministry) are wanting to stop the continuos noise from the mask lobby and have agreed to include masks in the measures even though the government and the RIVM still say it has little merit wearing them. They use the old Dutch saying "Baat het niet schaad het niet". (If it does not work it wont damage).
Just keeping those like that poor woman happy. It is an election year after all.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:29 am

So Rutte is just bringing in a partial lockdown and the mandatory wearing of masks because he's weak and just wants to please people?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:45 am

In the week ending Tuesday, the new cases stood at 43,903 in the nation of 17.3 million, an increase of some 60% over the preceding week.

People ending up in the intensive care units shot up to 192 from 121, and coronavirus deaths reached 150 compared to 89 the week earlier.

The Amsterdam and Rotterdam regions are the current hotbeds of the virus in the Netherlands.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/wo ... n-19101626

At least two Rotterdam hospitals have had to close the emergency department for a number of hours since the beginning of October, because all available beds were full. Several hospitals confirm this after Ernst Kuipers, chairman of the Board of Directors of Erasmus MC and chairman of the National Network Acute Care, raised this problem during a briefing to the House of Representatives. One of those hospitals is the Maasstad Hospital, where the emergency department had to temporarily close four times this month.

Kuipers said during the briefing that emergency departments of hospitals in Rotterdam, Amsterdam and The Hague sometimes had to close last week. “Because the hospitals were full, the emergency departments were full and ambulances were packed right outside,” he explained.

Kuipers said that in a few cases the closure lasted all night. “At times it involved different emergency departments in the same city, which were closed at the same time. If an ambulance cannot dispose of its patient, you have no choice.”
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:06 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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So Rutte is just bringing in a partial lockdown and the mandatory wearing of masks because he's weak and just wants to please people?
He is not weak as such but he and his party (VVD) have been receiving ever increasing criticism over his handling of the whole crisis. The elections are in March and the VVD want to maintain their present position in order to take part in coalition talks but this crisis has turned into a political headache. While he and the Director of RIVM have been defending their standpoint on masks there has been a steady increase in the volume from the mask lobby which tends to be his party's supporters. Left wingers tend to want to have the freedom choice. Groen Links and the D'66 are making inroads thanks to the crisis. Rutte's normal impeccable communication skills have let him down and the last two Covid press conferences have been a bit of a shambles to be honest.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:10 am

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:45 am
In the week ending Tuesday, the new cases stood at 43,903 in the nation of 17.3 million, an increase of some 60% over the preceding week.

People ending up in the intensive care units shot up to 192 from 121, and coronavirus deaths reached 150 compared to 89 the week earlier.

The Amsterdam and Rotterdam regions are the current hotbeds of the virus in the Netherlands.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/wo ... n-19101626

At least two Rotterdam hospitals have had to close the emergency department for a number of hours since the beginning of October, because all available beds were full. Several hospitals confirm this after Ernst Kuipers, chairman of the Board of Directors of Erasmus MC and chairman of the National Network Acute Care, raised this problem during a briefing to the House of Representatives. One of those hospitals is the Maasstad Hospital, where the emergency department had to temporarily close four times this month.

Kuipers said during the briefing that emergency departments of hospitals in Rotterdam, Amsterdam and The Hague sometimes had to close last week. “Because the hospitals were full, the emergency departments were full and ambulances were packed right outside,” he explained.

Kuipers said that in a few cases the closure lasted all night. “At times it involved different emergency departments in the same city, which were closed at the same time. If an ambulance cannot dispose of its patient, you have no choice.”
https://alkhaleejtoday.co/business/5091 ... orary.html
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Post by NineBerry » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:22 am

Not as bad as in the Netherlands or France yet. But slowly going up. I hope we can get them under control again.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:47 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:06 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:29 am
So Rutte is just bringing in a partial lockdown and the mandatory wearing of masks because he's weak and just wants to please people?
He is not weak as such but he and his party (VVD) have been receiving ever increasing criticism over his handling of the whole crisis. The elections are in March and the VVD want to maintain their present position in order to take part in coalition talks but this crisis has turned into a political headache. While he and the Director of RIVM have been defending their standpoint on masks there has been a steady increase in the volume from the mask lobby which tends to be his party's supporters. Left wingers tend to want to have the freedom choice. Groen Links and the D'66 are making inroads thanks to the crisis. Rutte's normal impeccable communication skills have let him down and the last two Covid press conferences have been a bit of a shambles to be honest.
So Rutte is unable to exert control over the political situation? Sounds like 'weak' to me. And he wants to keep everyone on side as the election looms? Sounds like he's just trying to please.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:53 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:47 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:06 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:29 am
So Rutte is just bringing in a partial lockdown and the mandatory wearing of masks because he's weak and just wants to please people?
He is not weak as such but he and his party (VVD) have been receiving ever increasing criticism over his handling of the whole crisis. The elections are in March and the VVD want to maintain their present position in order to take part in coalition talks but this crisis has turned into a political headache. While he and the Director of RIVM have been defending their standpoint on masks there has been a steady increase in the volume from the mask lobby which tends to be his party's supporters. Left wingers tend to want to have the freedom choice. Groen Links and the D'66 are making inroads thanks to the crisis. Rutte's normal impeccable communication skills have let him down and the last two Covid press conferences have been a bit of a shambles to be honest.
So Rutte is unable to exert control over the political situation? Sounds like 'weak' to me.
Sounds like democracy to me. The Tweede Kamer has always the last say. He has to work with a four party coalition which does not make it easy. It is not like the UK's second chamber where parties issue whips.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:56 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Man-up Svarty. ;)
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:57 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:53 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:47 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:06 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:29 am
So Rutte is just bringing in a partial lockdown and the mandatory wearing of masks because he's weak and just wants to please people?
He is not weak as such but he and his party (VVD) have been receiving ever increasing criticism over his handling of the whole crisis. The elections are in March and the VVD want to maintain their present position in order to take part in coalition talks but this crisis has turned into a political headache. While he and the Director of RIVM have been defending their standpoint on masks there has been a steady increase in the volume from the mask lobby which tends to be his party's supporters. Left wingers tend to want to have the freedom choice. Groen Links and the D'66 are making inroads thanks to the crisis. Rutte's normal impeccable communication skills have let him down and the last two Covid press conferences have been a bit of a shambles to be honest.
So Rutte is unable to exert control over the political situation? Sounds like 'weak' to me.
Sounds like democracy to me. The Tweede Kamer has always the last say. He has to work with a four party coalition which does not make it easy. It is not like the UK's second chamber where parties issue whips.
Erm. You were the one who was complaining that Rutte's hand was being unduly forced by the 'mask lobby' - and now you call that democracy. So I guess your problem is with NL Democracy. Perhaps the NL isn't that great after all?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:58 am

Svartalf wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:56 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:22 am
Man-up Svarty. ;)
can't, I"m a little boy trapped in an old man's body.
Man-down then! :D
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