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Post by macdoc » Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:40 am

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14 October 2021
COVID super-immunity: one of the pandemic’s great puzzles
People who have previously recovered from COVID-19 have a stronger immune response after being vaccinated than those who have never been infected. Scientists are trying to find out why.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x
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macdoc wrote:
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NEWS
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COVID super-immunity: one of the pandemic’s great puzzles
People who have previously recovered from COVID-19 have a stronger immune response after being vaccinated than those who have never been infected. Scientists are trying to find out why.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x
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Post by Tero » Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:19 am

A little socialism helps. As long as the country is more or less unified.

Third, decades of privatisation, outsourcing and budget cuts in the name of “efficiency” have harmed government responses to the Covid-19 crisis. Proper investment in dynamic state capabilities is why, say, Vietnam can rapidly set up low-cost testing of children during a pandemic, but rich countries such as the US and UK lag behind. Theodore Agnew’s comments that an over-reliance on consulting companies “infantilises” government are spot on. We should heed his advice and allow “our brightest [public servants] opportunities to work on some of the most challenging, fulfilling and crunchy issues” of our time.

Fourth, in an era when most global flows of money were reinvested into finance, insurance and real estate, it is good news that the UK government is considering building an infrastructure bank. The strength of public investment banks is that they “pick the willing” — they provide patient, long-term finance to actors that will address concerns identified by government policy, such as a green transition. We also need new measures of success that go beyond gross domestic product, and policy evaluation methods that go beyond cost-benefit analyses.
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macdoc wrote:
Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:40 am
NEWS
14 October 2021
COVID super-immunity: one of the pandemic’s great puzzles
People who have previously recovered from COVID-19 have a stronger immune response after being vaccinated than those who have never been infected. Scientists are trying to find out why.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x
Thanks for posting that, macdoc - a very interesting article. It prompted me (as a double vaccinated human) to wonder if the reverse order would also create extra immunity. If I were to get covid in the next year or so (which is certainly possible), hopefully it would be mild, and also that, when I recover, my immunity to another infection could be considerably higher...
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Post by Tero » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:38 pm

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:19 am

Even the UN are seeing through the tory smoke screen.

United Nations withdraws Matt Hancock job offer
Former health secretary will no longer become special envoy for UN’s economic commission for Africa

Matt Hancock, the former UK health secretary, will no longer become a special envoy for the United Nations, after the job offer was withdrawn.

Hancock said on Tuesday he was “honoured” to be working with the UN’s economic commission for Africa (Uneca) to help the continent recover from the pandemic.

However, campaigners objected to the appointment because of his record in government during the coronavirus crisis, and on Friday the UN’s official spokesperson said the appointment would not be taken forward.

The Uneca has since removed the press release from its website announcing Hancock’s appointment to the unpaid role.

Hancock claimed on Saturday that the offer had been withdrawn because of a technicality.

In a statement, he said: “The UN have written to me to explain that a technical UN rule has subsequently come to light which states that sitting members of parliament cannot also be UN special representatives.

“Since I am committed to continuing to serve as MP for West Suffolk, this means I cannot take up the position.”

However, there are previous instances of sitting MPs taking up UN posts: former prime minister Gordon Brown was appointed as a special envoy in 2012.


However, NGOs and activists objected to the appointment, which was announced on the same day that MPs published a report saying thousands of people had died because the government had failed to lock down early enough, while Hancock was health secretary.

Global Justice Now said in a tweet: “Matt Hancock blocked international efforts to allow low- and middle-income countries to produce their own Covid-19 vaccines, leading to millions of global south deaths. The audacity of this man claiming to help African nations and promote sustainable development is sickening.”
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:28 am

The dictators still controlling Fernland.

New Zealand Covid update: Auckland to remain in lockdown even as fully vaccinated hit 70%
Jacinda Ardern says restrictions are needed to prevent a spike in cases, as experts warn any relaxation now would be ‘very dangerous’

Auckland, the city at the centre of New Zealand’s Covid outbreak, will remain in level 3 lockdown for another two weeks, despite rising vaccination levels. The decision from prime minister Jacinda Ardern comes as experts remain concerned that an early move out of lockdown could be disastrous, and risk overwhelming the health system.

Auckland is closing in on 90% of its population having had one shot; 89% of the region’s population has now had at least one dose, and 70% are fully vaccinated.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:30 am

And when they open up will you accept that your ridiculous conspiracy theories are bullshit?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:59 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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And when they open up will you accept that your ridiculous conspiracy theories are bullshit?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:41 am

They are stronger than me. I won't accept a lockdown at this point. I'm fine with requiring vaccines and even masks, but I'm going out.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by macdoc » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:40 pm

for fucks sake scot stop blathering about something you know nothing about.
Want to compare Covid deaths in Aus or NZ with your congested postage stamp of a nation?

You're the same population as Israel and twice the deaths.....and given your small size that simply should indicate to STFU. :nono:
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:41 pm

You cant get it can you. You are a fuck all country with a fuck all population. You got it all fucking wrong like Fernland. Why corruption just like Fernland. Define a Covid death as nobody else has done. Nothing moves in Cairns; a fuck all town in a fuck all state. Still wearing masks even though there is no evidence it helps? You are barking sunshine. Cant you use google or duckduck? We are twice the population of Israel in the same size of country. You really know fuck all.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:54 pm

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Post by macdoc » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:48 am

Holland way higher deaths 18,000 ...with even less than twice the population for Israel with 8,000

Australia
1440 deaths with with 50% more population.....you have NO fucking case ..laughable rant per usual :coffee:

meanwhile no new cases here in lovely Queensland

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/ ... /100537860

Shall we discuss your miserable weather while we are at it??....no wonder you are so dyspeptic

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