The Coronavirus Thread
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I didn't know who he was until last week, but does a state governor have the power and authority to stop airlines selling tickets and filling flights? Do emergency powers give a governor that kind of power and authority that allows them to decide what businesses should operate?
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Not bad, but one quibble Jim. My Sharona wasn't a one hit wonder. The band had another couple of hits, and Sharona's in real estate now.JimC wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:32 pmFor once:
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Why do you hate freedom?
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Glaxative affects me differently, Brian. It does not depress me. I find the rants of someone that much off the planet (metaphorically speaking, of course) impossible to take seriously enough to let it become depressing or destructive in any way. Unhelpful, yes, but it is entertaining despite also being rather repetitive.Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:14 pmYour depressing brand of street preaching is not only unhelpful but also quite destructive...
One thing that helps to keep boredom at bay is Glaxative writing skill. He manages to avoid grammatical and typographical errors almost all the time, but that's just basic. More importantly, he tends to stay clear of clichés and platitudes. Best of all, his sentences are brief, clearly structured, and each of them flows easily to the next. Glaxative's post are a pleasure to read for those reasons.
Glaxative is totally bereft of a sense of humour, but that difference aside, his output resembles that of Aldous Huxley's early novels and some of his short stories. Just imagine what he could have achieved were he not so batshit crazy.
I wish I could write like either. Alas, having tried and failed for decades, the likelihood of eventually reaching that level of skill is practically zero.
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The next time you leave this planet I'm going with you. Obviously we are at the point where the morons are in the majority, and taking over the government of many countries.Animavore wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:23 pmCont.The Coronavirus Is a Disaster for Feminism
Pandemics affect men and women differently.
Enough already. When people try to be cheerful about social distancing and working from home, noting that William Shakespeare and Isaac Newton did some of their best work while England was ravaged by the plague, there is an obvious response: Neither of them had child-care responsibilities.
Shakespeare spent most of his career in London, where the theaters were, while his family lived in Stratford-upon-Avon. During the plague of 1606, the playwright was lucky to be spared from the epidemic—his landlady died at the height of the outbreak—and his wife and two adult daughters stayed safely in the Warwickshire countryside. Newton, meanwhile, never married or had children. He saw out the Great Plague of 1665–6 on his family’s estate in the east of England, and spent most of his adult life as a fellow at Cambridge University, where his meals and housekeeping were provided by the college.
For those with caring responsibilities, an infectious-disease outbreak is unlikely to give them time to write King Lear or develop a theory of optics. A pandemic magnifies all existing inequalities (even as politicians insist this is not the time to talk about anything other than the immediate crisis). Working from home in a white-collar job is easier; employees with salaries and benefits will be better protected; self-isolation is less taxing in a spacious house than a cramped apartment. But one of the most striking effects of the coronavirus will be to send many couples back to the 1950s. Across the world, women’s independence will be a silent victim of the pandemic.
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That was definitely a laugh out loud moment, especially since he made that absurd claim twice in what seemed like half a second. That's 3600 rounds per minute. The M134D machine gun does 3000, but it needs six barrels to do it without melting in the process and an electric feeder to keep up with the speed the bullets are dispatched.
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The problem with the second amendment is the frequency with which "a well regulated Militia" has overthrown democratic governments and replaced them with tyrannous ones.
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How fortunate, then, that people are free to defend themselves against militias as well.
Or burglars. Or those people who let their pet void on your lawns.
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...or people with different coloured skin...
...or that guy who looked at me funny...
...or that old woman who is possessed by the devil...
...or the people that the voices in my head tell me are evil monsters...
...or that guy who looked at me funny...
...or that old woman who is possessed by the devil...
...or the people that the voices in my head tell me are evil monsters...
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... oronavirusWhen would a patient go onto a ventilator?
Before deciding to put a patient onto a ventilator, Story says doctors are looking for signs of “respiratory failure”.
“The breathing rate will increase, they’ll look distressed, the CO2 in the blood goes up and they can become sedated and confused,” he says.
He says while a normal breathing rate is about 15 breaths a minute, if the rate gets to about 28 times a minute, then this is a signal that ventilation may be needed.
Before going on a mechanical ventilator, Prof John Wilson, president-elect of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians and a respiratory physician, says there may be other attempts to increase a patient’s oxygen levels.
These “non-invasive” methods of ventilation can include masks and oxygen tanks.
How soon might a patient need a ventilator and for how long?
Ranganathan says once a doctor sees that a patient needs a ventilator, “it is required quickly”.
He says: “The patient can be sustained for short periods of time using manual forms of ventilation such as using a bag and mask system with oxygen, but usually being attached to a ventilator needs to happen within 30 minutes if critical.”
Story says that in severe Covid-19 patients, a life-threatening condition can develop called acute respiratory distress syndrome (Ards) that requires ventilators to deliver smaller volumes of oxygen and air, but at higher rates.
This could mean a patient may need to be on a ventilator “for weeks”.
To avoid complications from the breathing tube going down the throat, Story says a tracheostomy is carried out so the tube can go straight into the windpipe through the neck.
“Patients can be more awake with tracheostomy and the hole just heals itself,” says Story.
“If patients develop Ards they will be in an intensive care unit for weeks and they’ll die without ventilators.”
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That's what Brian Peacock just said.
As for me, I'd use a different expression: Your governors (all of them) are the running dogs of capitalist pigs. None of this shit could have happened in China. They know how to isolate entire provinces if necessary. Eventually, anyway.
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https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/20/21 ... -elon-muskCovid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, targets the lungs and can cause complications like pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome. Severe cases will require a ventilator to be able to deliver enough oxygen from the lungs to the rest of the body. Without one, the patient could die. A ventilator shortage, then, will mean some patients are denied lifesaving care. And, as has already happened in Italy, doctors may have to choose which patients get ventilators and therefore live and which ones don’t and die.
Depending on how far and how fast coronavirus spreads in the United States, the number of cases could overwhelm the country’s supply of hospital beds, medical professionals, and ventilators. According to the New York Times, there are about 170,000 ventilators in the US while the American Hospital Association estimates 960,000 people will need them over the course of the pandemic — which is why it’s best to do whatever we can to slow the spread of the virus so that not all patients all need ventilators at the same time.
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So it's militia against militia? Fortunate for the people who are fighting in the winning one.Cunt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:44 amHow fortunate, then, that people are free to defend themselves against militias as well.
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Some scary possible futures for the US:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-27/ ... s/12093836
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-27/ ... s/12093836
Trump is tapping into what he believes his supporters want to hear. But then there is the other side of the coin:Indeed, on the very day the World Health Organisation warned America it could soon become the global epicentre of the pandemic, Mr Trump pushed for the US economy to be "opened up and raring to go" in just over two weeks.
"Our people are full of vim and vigour and energy," he told Fox News viewers.
"They don't want to be locked into a house or an apartment or some space. It's not for our country. We're not built that way."
And the potential for armed craziness:More than 3 million Americans filed new unemployment claims last week.
That's nearly five times the highest level of claims seen during the global financial crisis of 2007.
As the world fixates on Wall Street's daily convulsions, the broader economy of the richest and most powerful nation on earth is crumbling before our eyes.
The instantaneous loss of income is frightening for anyone and especially so in a nation where around half of American families claim to be living paycheque to paycheque.
Mailing $4,000 cheques to millions of families and significantly boosting existing unemployment benefits is primarily aimed at staving off homelessness and hunger.
Anger too.
Standing in the corner of the Oval Office, there's an elephant armed with an AR-15.
The threat of a social unrest is very real in the minds of American policy makers and police chiefs.
An angry nation, heavily armed and cooped up through summer without income, is a dangerous proposition if there's any real sense of scarcity on the streets.
Look what happened in New Orleans in the days after Hurricane Katrina when a slow emergency response left thousands trapped with little food or water.
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