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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Tero » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:50 pm

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About half of the responses to Greta's Twitter feed are like the ones posted in this thread. I've added one from today.
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Or these
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:57 am

James Murdoch criticises father's news outlets for climate crisis denial

Rupert Murdoch’s son has strongly criticised his family’s news outlets for downplaying the impact of the climate crisis, as bushfires continue to burn in Australia.

James Murdoch and his wife, Kathryn, issued a rare joint statement directly criticising his father’s businesses for their “ongoing denial” on the issue, which has been reflected in the family’s newspapers repeatedly casting doubt on the link between the climate emergency and the bushfires.

“Kathryn and James’s views on climate are well-established and their frustration with some of the News Corp and Fox coverage of the topic is also well-known,” a spokesperson for the couple said, confirming a report in the Daily Beast. “They are particularly disappointed with the ongoing denial among the news outlets in Australia given obvious evidence to the contrary.”...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... sis-denial
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:48 am

well, if James is starting to diss daddy rupe, he's gonna be a nobody faster than a repug official can take a bribe...
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Re: Climate change denialism

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https://esapolitics.blogspot.com
http://esabirdsne.blogspot.com/
Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:30 pm

https://www.climatescience.org.au/conte ... bush-fires

--provides a bit of explanation for the link between global warming and Australia's fires. It is several years old, but it's unlikely the factors that increase the risk of fire e.g. fuel have changed. :hehe:

The impact section is particularly interesting given that at the time it was written despite the increased risk of fires, their impact on people was not trending upward. Supposedly this was because of excellent management.

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Re: Climate change denialism

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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
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Re: Climate change denialism

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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by JimC » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-04/ ... a/11925750
Macdonald then repeatedly pressed Senator Molan on whether he thought climate change was caused by humans.

Initially, Senator Molan said: "I accept the climate is changing. It has changed and it will change. What it's producing is hotter and drier weather and a hotter and drier country.

"As to whether it is human-induced climate change, my mind is open."

Macdonald then pressed him further on the issue and asked him why his mind was open and whether Senator Molan questioned the science.

"Michael might say that the science is settled," Senator Molan said.

"And I respect very much scientific opinion but every day across my desk comes enough information for me to say that there are other opinions."

Asked once again to answer the question and "what is the evidence you are relying on?" by Macdonald, the senator gave an unpopular answer.

"I'm not relying on evidence, Hamish," Senator Molan said, prompting heckles from the crowd, as well as parliamentary peers and commentators on social media.

"Oh dear Jim Molan, it's gone from a car crash to a train wreck," senator Jacquie Lambie tweeted.
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"Science is an interesting opionion but a lot of jobs depend on this so we have to look at all sides..."
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:14 am

I care as much about the environment as the next man, but I ask you, what have the dolphins or the hummingbirds ever done for us?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:35 am

And mosquitoes. What's the point of them?
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Re: Climate change denialism

Post by Woodbutcher » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:16 pm

And forests are covering up a lot of good farmland and building sites, not to mention tar sands and coal deposits. They'll have to go!
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