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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:54 am

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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:04 am

Svartalf wrote:will they ALSO pay in proportion for the people whose lives they've ended, destroyed, or otherwise ruined?
Because, if there was enough evidence of criminal conspiring to force them to that kind of deal, then they still have a huge lot to answer for, not just to the doj.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:52 am

Indonesian aeroplane loses contact after takeoff from Jakarta
Boeing 737 operated by Sriwijaya Air and carrying more than 50 people is en route to Pontianak
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:16 pm

You know, given the number of accidents tied to indonesian planes in the last decade or two, I am starting to wonder whether those operators are trurstworthy...
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Post by Tero » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:20 pm

Want to lose business in your airplane sales? Send them to Indonesia and Malaysia.

But, even if you refused to sell to them, they would buy used Boeings.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

Well it seems to have crashed:

Boeing 737 carrying 62 people feared to have crashed into sea near Jakarta
Suspected debris found in sea after Sriwijaya Air flight went missing shortly after takeoff

An Indonesian passenger plane carrying 62 people that went missing on Saturday is feared to have crashed, after suspected debris was found in the sea north of Jakarta.

The Boeing 737-500, which departed from Jakarta’s international airport at about 2.36pm, lost contact four minutes later. Data from the flight tracker FlightRadar24 said Sriwijaya Air flight SJ182 had reached an altitude of nearly 11,000ft (3,350 metres) before dropping to 250ft.

The plane was carrying 50 passengers, including seven children, among them three infants, and 12 crew members, according to the transport ministry. It was scheduled to make a 90-minute journey over the Java Sea to Pontianak, the capital of West Kalimantan province on Borneo island.


Maintenance does not seem to have a high priority in Indonesia.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Tero » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:57 pm

The Dutch make the best flaps and spoilers:
The Dutch would make the moving parts of the wing, such as flaps and spoilers.
The Spanish, who would become a full partner in 1971, would build the horizontal tailplane.

Who cares about the fuselage? They are cruel to put us in like sardines.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:37 pm

Well Max will be returning to the skies. Luckily I dont fly anymore.

Boeing 737 Max could fly in Europe this summer after EU approval
European safety agency follows US and Brazil in saying it will allow aircraft to return

The Boeing 737 Max could return to European skies by summer once approval for the plane to fly again is granted in the EU next week.

It would mark a critical step in its return to service, after the 737 Max was grounded worldwide following crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia caused by a faulty sensor, which repeatedly triggered a system that pushed the nose down. A total of 346 people died in the two accidents.

Patrick Ky, the executive director of the European Union Aviation Safety Agency, said on Tuesday it would publish an updated airworthiness directive next week, following in the footsteps of regulators in the US and Brazil.

The 737 Max will be able to return to service as soon as Boeing has updated software and rewired some components, and airlines have trained their pilots in the changes. Ky said the version of the 737 Max bought by Irish airline Ryanair will be certified “in the coming weeks”, meaning it will probably be ready for service by summer.
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Post by Tero » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:52 pm

The whole thing was driven by cheapness. The airlines thought they could substitute the Max for older 737s and not retrain pilots because "it flies the same." It would have been cheaper (for construction) for Boeing to start from scratch and build an all new plane, which would have required all that pilot training.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Tero » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:40 pm

All the 737s now ancient. Fixed 737Max may be as safe as old models. But scrap them all in 10 years.
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:57 pm

Another Boeing. Second from the top. Safe landing, engine blew.
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Post by Cunt » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:18 pm

Max Ward died recently. He's a guy who made a airline, and made a movie about trying to deregulate air travel in Canada, back in the day.

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His old hangar was taken over by 'Buffalo' Joe, who runs Buffalo air out of it. It's a cool place to wander around.

This pic has nothing to do with either, so don't unspoiler it unless you want some unreasonable joy...
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Re: Airplane and airline stuff

Post by macdoc » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:03 am



First flight of the 777x. Cool tech with folding wing tips.

I imagine all the aging fuel hogs were quickly retired during covid with only the most fuel efficient like the Dreamliner on the few remaining routes. Enjoyed the flight from LA to Auckland last month ...the 787s are warmer at cruising altitude and of course neat electronic windows.
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