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Post by Tero » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:44 pm

Why isn't Trump doing the thing he did with Cohen, now with Parnas? Trump is silent. Smart, but not like him.
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Post by Tero » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:26 pm

Since the senators don't get to speak, look for lots of interviews each day as they leave the chambers.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:11 pm

Wikipedia (unpublished, under Parnas and "talk")
Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas received $1 million from a Russian account in September
Parnas (an account in Parnas' wife's name) received $1 million from a Russian account in September, according to a court filing; during the same month that Parnas and his partner Igor Fruman received the first request for documents from the Congressional committees investigating the Trump administration's actions in Ukraine. In the past three years, Parnas has received more than $1.5 million from Ukrainian and Russian sources.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:28 pm

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Video somewhere of them talking
https://mobile.twitter.com/BeachPretzel ... 3672020992

Maybe it's like the Leo Kottke Dylan thing? They talked. Dylan knew Leo was some guitarist at the same studio Dylan was using. But Kottke too, he had no idea he was talking to Dylan.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:23 pm

Trump: I don't know Mr Parmas. They just took pictures of me, like with thousands of people.
Reality:
LEV Parnas worked for Fred Trump since 1988, selling condos to Russians.
Donald and LEV have known each other more than 30 years.https://twitter.com/TZZToday/status/1217947627708395520
(daddy Trump died 1999)
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:39 pm

They try very hard, using journalistic skills/lies. He makes up a fictional file on Hunter Biden:
But while there is a debate over whether Republicans will vote to call witnesses, there is no debate on how the Senate Democrats intend to vote -- 100% for removal of a president they fear they may not be able to defeat.

Consider Trump's alleged offense: pressing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate Burisma Holdings and Hunter Biden.

Assume Zelenskiy, without prodding, sent to the U.S., as a friendly act to ingratiate himself with Trump, the Burisma file on Hunter Biden.
Would that have been a crime?

Why is it then a crime if Trump asked for the file?

The military aid Trump held up for 10 weeks -- lethal aid Barack Obama denied to Kyiv -- was sent. And Zelenskiy never held the press conference requested, never investigated Burisma, never sent the Biden file.

There is a reason why no crime was charged in the impeachment of Donald Trump. There was no crime committed.
https://townhall.com/columnists/patbuch ... t-n2559651

Of course there is a file on Hunter Biden, but only the contract for his services, which were to sit at board meetings a few times a year. The board votes on Burisma matters which at this time are internal and do not need to be revealed. But board members do not devise technical things or criminal efforts. They look at finances, annual reports and such. Business! In any case, the president of Ukraine cannot get info on a board member of a company in his country.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:36 pm

Wow, more cool stuff appeared
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2% ... ne_scandal
Jump to Giuliani
Responding to a motion by the liberal watchdog group American Oversight,[96] on October 23 a federal judge gave the State Department 30 days to release Ukraine-related records, including communications between Pompeo and Rudy Giuliani.[97] On November 22, the State Department released internal emails and documents that bolstered Gordon Sondland's congressional testimony that Pompeo participated in Giuliani's activities relating to Ukraine. The documents also showed the State Department had deliberately deceived Congress about the rationale for Yovanovitch's removal as ambassador.[96]

During his call with Zelensky, Trump said, "I will ask [Giuliani] to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great."[98] In November, Trump denied directing Giuliani to go to Ukraine to seek damaging information on the Bidens.[99] Giuliani had asserted in September that "everything I did was to defend my client."[100]
Naftogaz

Perry with Zelensky at Zelensky's inauguration, May 2019
Since March 2019, while Giuliani was pressing the Ukrainian administration to investigate the Bidens, a group of businessmen and Republican donors used their ties to Trump and Giuliani to try to replace the leadership of Ukrainian state-owned oil and gas company Naftogaz. The group sought to have Naftogaz contracts granted to businesses owned by allies of Trump, but this effort hit a setback when Volodymyr Zelensky won the 2019 Ukrainian Presidential Election.[101] During a state visit for President Zelensky's inauguration in May, U.S. Secretary of Energy Rick Perry reportedly pressured President Zelensky to fire members of the Naftogaz supervisory board,[101] but Perry denied this, stating in a press conference on October 7: "That was a totally dreamed-up story".[102] On October 10, Perry was issued a subpoena by the House Intelligence Committee, the House Oversight Committee, and the House Foreign Affairs Committee, partially concerning his interactions with Naftogaz.[103][104][105]
Firtash is represented by Trump and Giuliani associates Joseph diGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing, having hired them on Parnas's recommendation. The New York Times reported in November that Giuliani had directed Parnas to approach Firtash with the recommendation, with the proposition that Firtash could help to provide compromising information on Biden, which Parnas's attorney described was "part of any potential resolution to [Firtash's] extradition matter."[112] Shokin's statement notes that it was prepared "at the request of lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash."[113][109] Bloomberg News reported on October 18 that during the summer of 2019 Firtash associates began attempting to dig up dirt on the Bidens in an effort to solicit Giuliani's assistance with Firtash's legal matters, as well as hiring diGenova and Toensing in July. Bloomberg News also reported that its sources told them Giuliani's high-profile publicity of the Shokin statement had greatly reduced the chances of the Justice Department dropping the charges against Firtash, as it would appear to be a political quid pro quo.[114]

Firtash made his fortune brokering Ukrainian imports of natural gas from the Russian firm Gazprom.[120] As vice president, Joe Biden had urged the Ukrainian government to eliminate middlemen such as Firtash from the country's natural gas industry, and to reduce the country's reliance on imports of Russian natural gas. Firtash denied involvement in collecting or financing damaging information on the Bidens.[112]
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:22 pm

I've stopped paying attention.

It's obvious Washington is run by criminals and we don't have the means to remove them.

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Post by Tero » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:53 pm

Ukraine responds "we don't know any Lev Parnas"
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/world/20 ... ur-vpx.cnn
"We never met Giuliani."
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Tero » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:36 pm

Vadym Volodymyrovych Prystaiko (Ukrainian: Вадим Володимирович Пристайко; born on February 20, 1970) is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine since August 29, 2019.[1] He had been the Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine between 2014 and 2019.

So he in fact had been present when Rudy romanced the Ukraine officials.
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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by JimC » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:04 pm

In the past, when evidence of such corruption was unearthed by investigative journalists, governments toppled, politicians resigned in disgrace and public servants were sacked. Now, the game of smoke and mirrors has so obscured the public's view of events that a cry of "fake news" is enough to deflect all consequences...
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Don't know nuthin!


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Re: The Trump Impeachment

Post by Seabass » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:17 pm

All the best people!
Trump Just Hired Jeffrey Epstein’s Lawyers

Donald Trump is lawyering up for his impeachment trial with a team that looks surprisingly similar to that of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

The president bolstered his legal team Friday with attorneys Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth Starr, who helped Epstein evade prison time in a now infamously lenient plea deal with Palm Beach prosecutors. Epstein originally faced multiple charges of soliciting and trafficking underage girls, but escaped with just 13 months of house arrest in a deal that caused Trump’s Labor Secretary Alex Acosta to resign under pressure last year.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-jus ... -ken-starr
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