GOP: socialism for the rich

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GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:51 pm

It's what lobbyists have achieved for decades. Amazon pays no tax on a good chunk of its income. Any chance this would change under Democrats?
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Rum » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:06 pm

Well it is more like a club isn’t it. If you can afford to join the benefits are enormous.

The problem with the GOP from what I can see from a distance is that it is ideologically driven. Whereas most political parties, here in Europe anyway, tend to be pragmatic and develop policies that will get them the popular vote, the Repubs stick to their ‘low tax/small government’ Mantra and then tell lies to convince a population that will suffer at the hands of their policies that actually they will, in some mysterious way, benefit in the end.

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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:08 pm

trickle down economics are a golden shower from the wealthy to the have nots
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:14 pm

"Trickle down" is the ideology that those eating scraps from the table will eat more scraps if they put more food on the table for those eating at the table.
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Post by Rum » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:40 pm

The name itself gives away its origin, mind set (excuse the phrase!) and arrogance. Trickle ‘DOWN’ attributes a superiority to those who are doing the trickling. It is an offensive term as well as economic strategy.

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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Good ones, but Svarty wins by a hair.
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:43 pm

stop being logical and truthy Rum, I can't dispute what you say and that stalls down the conversation as efficiently as the max8 programming.
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Post by Rum » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:48 pm

Sorry. Didn’t know this was supposed to be a giggles thread. :sadcheer:

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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:54 pm

well, I made it into one, because I'm depressing to the max and I need something to lighten my mood, if that was not the initial intent of the thread, gimme a warning for derailing.
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:55 pm

There is almost never any major change in these things from president to president. Trump is going out of his way to punish ”liberals” as the Trump voters only have two years of community college.
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:06 pm

community college??? there are two kinds of frump voter, the wealthy who often have ivy league education, but don't use it the way it was intended, and high school dropouts.
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:16 pm

No, we actually have trade schools, we call them community colleges. You can get mechanical or other practical skills. Out here in the prairie, very regular people vote republican faithfully. I’m in a university town, so it is only 50% here. Higher state wide.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:29 pm

Education in America? An oxymoron.
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Not really the main problem, the cost is.

We American educated doctors lawyers and engineers do our best for our American clients. They are not so demanding and educated as the Dutch. :D
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Re: GOP: socialism for the rich

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:02 pm

Meritocracy is a myth invented by the rich
The elite college admissions scandal in the US is a reminder that wealth, not talent, is what determines the opportunities you have in life

The US college admissions scandal is fascinating, if not surprising. Over 30 wealthy parents have been criminally charged over a scheme in which they allegedly paid a company large sums of money to get their children into top universities. The duplicity involved was extreme: everything from paying off university officials to inventing learning disabilities to facilitate cheating on standardized tests. One father even faked a photo of his son pole vaulting in order to convince admissions officers that the boy was a star athlete.

It’s no secret that wealthy people will do nearly anything to get their kids into good schools. But this scandal only begins to reveal the lies that sustain the American idea of meritocracy. William “Rick” Singer, who admitted to orchestrating the scam, explained that there are three ways in which a student can get into the college of their choice: “There is a front door which is you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement, which is 10 times as much money. And I’ve created this side door.” The “side door” he’s referring to is outright crime, literally paying bribes and faking test scores. It’s impossible to know how common that is, but there’s reason to suspect it’s comparatively rare. Why? Because for the most part, the wealthy don’t need to pay illegal bribes. They can already pay perfectly legal ones.

People often speak about “equality of opportunity” as the American aspiration. But having anything close to equal opportunity would require a radical re-engineering of society from top to bottom. As long as there are large wealth inequalities, there will be colossal differences in the opportunities that children have. No matter what admissions criteria are set, wealthy children will have the advantage. If admissions officers focus on test scores, parents will pay for extra tutoring and test prep courses. If officers focus instead on “holistic” qualities, pare. It’s simple: wealth always confers greater capacity to give your children the edge over other people’s children. If we wanted anything resembling a “meritocracy”, we would probably have to start by instituting full egalitarian communism.

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