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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:41 am

Interesting Herman. :tup:
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines crash: Boeing faces safety questions over 737 Max 8 jets

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:51 am

It is going to have a considerable kick on effect in the American economy.

Boeing suspends production of 737 Max model involved in fatal crashes
US air watchdog said last week it would not approve plane’s return to service before 2020

Boeing is temporarily halting production of its grounded 737 Max after the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said last week it would not approve the plane’s return to service before 2020.

The decision came after the US planemaker’s board held a regular two-day meeting in Chicago, which started on Sunday.

“Safely returning the 737 Max to service is our top priority,” Boeing said in a statement. “We know that the process of approving the 737 Max’s return to service, and of determining appropriate training requirements, must be extraordinarily thorough and robust, to ensure that our regulators, customers, and the flying public have confidence in the 737 Max updates.”

The Max, which was Boeing’s bestselling plane, has been involved in two fatal crashes that claimed 346 lives. More than 700 Max jets are now grounded worldwide. It is the first time in 20 years that Boeing has halted 737 production and the move could have significant repercussions for the US economy.

Boeing is the US’s largest manufacturing exporter and a shutdown would impact suppliers across the country, hitting the country’s already troubled manufacturing sector. The suspension has already led to the cancellation of thousands of flights scheduled by airlines that were awaiting new planes or had bought ones that are now grounded.
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:42 am

We're going to need a whole bunch of them Greta catamarans to sail to Europe, plus the sailing crews. But the sales in motion skckness drugs will pull up the economy as it starts falling in Trump's final year.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:28 pm

The FAA got its backbone back:

Pressure on FAA to approve its 737 Max jets backfires for Boeing
Tensions boiled over as the regulator refused to be rushed in certifying the bestselling plane as safe

A bust-up between Boeing and the Federal Aviation Administration, the US regulator, has backed the aviation giant into a corner over the future of its 737 Max aircraft.

The aerospace group said last week that it would halt production of the plane in January after the FAA refused to authorise its return to service until 2020. The Max was grounded around the world in March following two fatal crashes, blamed on new anti-stall software, that claimed 346 lives.

Sandy Morris, an aerospace analyst at Jefferies, said the FAA’s tougher stance with Boeing and its refusal to rush the plane back into service suggested the Max would not be approved until summer at the earliest.
Boeing just could not care a damn.
It may be some time, though, until investors and customers are prepared to once again embrace the mantra: “If it’s not Boeing, I’m not going.”
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:11 pm

Boeing ousts chief executive Dennis Muilenburg
Company battles to regain trust after two fatal crashes involving 737 Max planes

Boeing on Monday fired its chief executive, Dennis Muilenburg, as the company battles to regain the trust of regulators, customers and the public after two crashes of its 737 Max plane claimed 346 lives.

In a statement, Boeing said the board had “decided that a change in leadership was necessary to restore confidence in the company moving forward as it works to repair relationships with regulators, customers, and all other stakeholders”.

The Seattle-based company said its chairman, David Calhoun, would take over as chief executive on 13 January. Muilenburg will leave Boeing with immediate effect, with chief financial officer, Greg Smith, serving as interim chief executive. Boeing did not respond to questions about how much Muilenburg will collect in severance pay.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:56 am

The fall-guy. Does Boeing think this will help. The guy taking over comes from the same swamp.

Boeing ousts chief executive Dennis Muilenburg
Company battles to regain trust after two fatal crashes involving 737 Max planes

Boeing on Monday fired its chief executive, Dennis Muilenburg, as the company battles to regain the trust of regulators, customers and the public after two crashes of its 737 Max plane claimed 346 lives.

In a statement, Boeing said the board had “decided that a change in leadership was necessary to restore confidence in the company moving forward as it works to repair relationships with regulators, customers, and all other stakeholders”.

The Seattle-based company said its chairman, David Calhoun, would take over as chief executive on 13 January. Muilenburg will leave Boeing with immediate effect, with chief financial officer, Greg Smith, serving as interim chief executive. Boeing did not respond to questions about how much Muilenburg will collect in severance pay.
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 pm

I don't think that really says anything about the course they are taking. Normally a new CEO comes in and starts layoffs. They scrap the 300 useless planes and start over. Boeing has to also improve the reputation of the 787, the plane that can still produce income, once the production problems are fixed:
On September 15, 2012, the NTSB requested the grounding of certain 787s due to GE engine failures; GE believed the production problem had been fixed by that time.[165] In March 2014, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries informed Boeing of a new problem that was caused by a change in manufacturing processes. Employees did not fill gaps with shims to connect wing rib aluminum shear ties to the carbon composite wing panels; the tightened fasteners, without shims, cause excessive stress that creates hairline cracks in the wings, which could enlarge and cause further damage. Forty-two aircraft awaiting delivery were affected, and each one required 1–2 weeks to inspect and repair. However, Boeing did not expect this problem to affect the overall delivery schedule, even if some airplanes were delivered late.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines crash: Boeing faces safety questions over 737 Max 8 jets

Post by Tero » Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:21 am

cost issues related to long range of these small planes
American Airlines forced Boeing into the deal. They wanted 737s, of any sort, so any pilot could fly them
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:22 am

Interesting video. :tup: On related videos is this one which shows the Boeing mentality:

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Post by Tero » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:50 am

Most of the flights to our city are those regional jets. My last trip was Seattle to Denver on a 737-800 and then a regional jet. The cheaper flights are to a city about 50 miles away on Southwest. They fly the old 737s. But they do not fly here at all. There is no bus connection between our two major airports.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:45 pm

Never fly in Europe these days even though Schiphol is only half an hour away by train which is a fifteen minute service.
Security drives me mad. Going to Paris, Brussels or Berlin is far faster by train from city centre to city centre.
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Post by Tero » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:13 pm

Yeah, there is no train from here to Europe. We are attempting to travel to Austria in the summer for a wedding.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:31 pm

A pity.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines crash: Boeing faces safety questions over 737 Max 8 jets

Post by Tero » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:19 am

Kansas senator pressuring Trump to get 737Max back
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines crash: Boeing faces safety questions over 737 Max 8 jets

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:16 am

He is probably a shareholder; fuck the passengers just sell the planes.
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