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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:47 pm

--show that an entire board of trustees for one of the largest districts in Texas is women, and women of color at that, and nothing...

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--feel better?

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Post by laklak » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:26 am

That's a pretty fucking Texas picture.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:14 am

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:27 am

Mayors for the three largest cities in Texas: Houston, San Antonio and Dallas.

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Sylvester Turner - Houston

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Ron Nirenburg - San Antonio

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Eric Johnson - Dallas

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Post by Hermit » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:13 am

Mayor of Alabama's largest metropolitan area, Birmingham

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Mayor of Alabama's capital, Montgomery

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Proves something, dunnit? I don't know what, but it does prove something.


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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:33 am

Our previous mayor was an out and happily married lesbian. Nobody struggled to understand the significance of that.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:53 am

A former president of the US was black. The US isn't racist.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:58 am

Can you imagine being anti-racist and feigning ignorance as to the significance of people of color, men and women, holding office in the US? It's embarrassing. Would they tell the civil rights activists of the 50s and 60s they don't know what a black mayor in the south proves --just shrug?

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Post by JimC » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:04 am

To me, it seems clear that there have been some positive changes over the past 20 or 30 years in the US in terms of racism. Examples of public figures and elected officials who are not white may well have increased. But that does not mean that significant systemic racism and economic disadvantage has disappeared. It also seems clear that a significant number of conservative white people have a reservoir of racial fear and anger, and that the minority of white supremacists remain active, unrepentant and dangerous.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:11 am

Some positive changes? :roll:

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White supremacists are the major violent threat today.

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Texas being close to teaching a white supremacist agenda in its schools...or any of a host of other ridiculous claims coming from those who never seem to bother with mundane facts like, who's running schools yadda yadda

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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Svartalf » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:53 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:53 am
A former president of the US was black. The US isn't racist.
A former president of the US was an evil crook, the US is the country of honest people.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:55 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:11 am
Some positive changes? :roll:

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Texas being close to teaching a white supremacist agenda in its schools...or any of a host of other ridiculous claims coming from those who never seem to bother with mundane facts like, who's running schools yadda yadda
Well, maybe white supremacists are a menace, but nowadays, they are regarded as a bunch of dangerous loonies, not so long ago, they were just regular people.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by JimC » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:59 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:11 am
Some positive changes? :roll:
So, would you want me to say that the changes have been so massive and perfect that they have eliminated white American racism or the clear average disadvantage suffered by non-white US citizens? :roll:
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Post by Hermit » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:28 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
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I'm sorry your father was a nazi. It must suck knowing that.
I just told you my father was not a Nazi! One of his best friends was a Jew! Can't you read? :lay:

One of my grandfathers definitely was, though.
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Re: Meanwhile, Texas

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:55 am

It's very difficult to give a balanced response to extremism and extremist ideas. Politically and policy wise right-wing extremism might punch above its weigh in the public arena, but it's also seated a lot closer to Power (in both an ideological and functional sense) than even moderately left-wing politics. If right-wing extremism has a louder voice than it should technically merit then where do we find the balancing point between the extreme right and, say, the centre-ground - particularly when the far-right frame everyone and everything on the centre-ground as radical, far-left, totalitarian extremism?

I understand the criticism of AOC for tweeting what appears to be a kind of leftish version of 'dog whistle politics', but at the same time the kind of thing she's responding to are common parlance in right-wing circles - whether they're actually reflective of reality in schools or not. I don't think the answer to the stream of foetid stool water constantly dribbling from the right is to ignore it. The 'when they go low we go high' strategy just doesn't seem to have worked so far, not-to-mention that it runs the risk of letting the dangerous, divisive excesses of right-wing politics go unchallenged.
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