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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:32 pm

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This is the nature of the right apeing Trump. Abuse, belittle, and offend then act indignant and self-righteous when someone sticks it to them and demand accountability.
Err.. it's anti-Trumpers here that are abusing, belittling and offending. Look where the namecalling and abuse comes from. It's you - Dutchy, Seabass - and some others occasionally, You and some others just think anyone who disagrees with you are committing abuse and offense and belittling you.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by rainbow » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:32 pm
Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:28 am
This is the nature of the right apeing Trump. Abuse, belittle, and offend then act indignant and self-righteous when someone sticks it to them and demand accountability.
Err.. it's anti-Trumpers here that are abusing, belittling and offending. Look where the namecalling and abuse comes from. It's you - Dutchy, Seabass - and some others occasionally, You and some others just think anyone who disagrees with you are committing abuse and offense and belittling you.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:11 pm

rainbow wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:55 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:32 pm
Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:28 am
This is the nature of the right apeing Trump. Abuse, belittle, and offend then act indignant and self-righteous when someone sticks it to them and demand accountability.
Err.. it's anti-Trumpers here that are abusing, belittling and offending. Look where the namecalling and abuse comes from. It's you - Dutchy, Seabass - and some others occasionally, You and some others just think anyone who disagrees with you are committing abuse and offense and belittling you.
Not even the Merkins like Trump: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:26 pm

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Good job anti Trumpers, keep up the good work. These people can go back to trailer park, cigarettes and Bud Light.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:09 pm

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Good job anti Trumpers, keep up the good work. These people can go back to trailer park, cigarettes and Bud Light.
Typical Democrat - man of the people -- champion of the common person -- the poor - the downtrodden - the blue collar....

I wonder where anyone gets the idea that democrats are hypocrite elitists?

Go back to your trailer and ciggies and beer, o' great unwashed masses! Get back to your guns and religion, o' deplorable xenophobes, homophobes, islamaphobes and transphobes! Why don't you want to vote for Democrats, anyway? You're voting against your own interests!
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:24 pm

We don't need to like the working classes, we just need to point out we GIVE STUFF, like education and healthcare, whereas Trump will just make you work as a slave at Wal Mart and die at 55.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Svartalf » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:27 pm

well, the wealthy don't need the lower classes, low class humans are thronging at the borders to serve and do all the mneial jobs for a pittance.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:05 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
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No Jim. To be fair and balanced you must sit down with Nazis, white supremacists, and other hateful bigots and discuss their point of view calmly and rationally in order to better understand it, preferably over tea and crumpets.

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Dude, nobody says you have to "sit down" with anyone and calmly discuss anything with them.

The problem is that people who aren't Nazis get labeled that, because that's the strategy of the left -- demonize their opposition - you call a Trump supporter a "Nazi" - then you get to punch and beat him, and smash his car - he's a Nazi after all. You don't peacefully protest Nazis, you should kill them, but failing that, at least beat them.

And, if you think the progressive left is going to win the battle of violence - think again. Remember, this isn't a one-way street. If some blue haired "Trump is not my President" trans-fluid tough guy starts beating Trump supporters under the rubric that they are "Nazis" then you're going to get, eventually, some who aren't going to take that shit lying down. Who do you think will win these street fights?

That's the problem here - is that you don't get to sit unmolested, blithely declaring who is a Nazi and who isn't - and throw the needed punches, set the needed fires, and smash the needed taillights. Once you do that, you are a violent thug, and people get to defend themselves and others against you.

And, if you get to declare this or that conservative to be "Nazis" and then punch them, then they will start to likewise declare your side another form of persona non grata - communist, socialist, anarchist - all quite punchable. Oh, you don't think there are any real communists? Well, who gave you the sole right to determine who are punchable Nazis, but others don't have the same right to declare folks to be punchable communists?

Are you going to rely on the police to be Progressive and side with your good guys?
I'm pretty rigorous in my application of the term. I basically agree with you - bandying "Nazi" about willy-nilly reduces it's impact and relevance when it comes to identifying and highlighting the hateful bigotry of real fascists.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:15 am

Forty Two wrote:
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I've never said the American far right is not fucking crazy. The moderate right, though, doesn't defend their actions, and doesn't afford them cover by inventing some moral justification to physically attack their opposition. The moderate left DOES give the extreme left cover, and they engage in Apologetics for asshat groups like ANTIFA nutjobs and they cheer over left wing shootings (a la Steve Scalise). When a right wing wacko goes off on a violence spree, nobody defends him.
Please cite examples of the moderate left 'cheering' over the congressional baseball practice shootings.

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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by rainbow » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:37 am

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:11 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:55 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:32 pm
Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:28 am
This is the nature of the right apeing Trump. Abuse, belittle, and offend then act indignant and self-righteous when someone sticks it to them and demand accountability.
Err.. it's anti-Trumpers here that are abusing, belittling and offending. Look where the namecalling and abuse comes from. It's you - Dutchy, Seabass - and some others occasionally, You and some others just think anyone who disagrees with you are committing abuse and offense and belittling you.
Not even the Merkins like Trump: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by rainbow » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:38 am

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:09 pm


I wonder where anyone gets the idea that democrats are hypocrite elitists?

Faux News.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Joe » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:35 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:15 am
Forty Two wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:29 pm
I've never said the American far right is not fucking crazy. The moderate right, though, doesn't defend their actions, and doesn't afford them cover by inventing some moral justification to physically attack their opposition. The moderate left DOES give the extreme left cover, and they engage in Apologetics for asshat groups like ANTIFA nutjobs and they cheer over left wing shootings (a la Steve Scalise). When a right wing wacko goes off on a violence spree, nobody defends him.
Please cite examples of the moderate left 'cheering' over the congressional baseball practice shootings.
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:50 pm

Yeah I don’t give a shit anymore. Kick the crap out of anyone supporting Trump openly
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Animavore » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:19 pm

So Trump will give front page interviews with far right publications which sport Nazis?
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Re: Political Attacks on Trump Supporters

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:24 pm

I have to start carrying a pool cue around if he’s sending biker gangs. (Rolling Stones Altamont joke).
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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