All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:09 pm

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Post by Seabass » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:34 am

Bear in mind that the governor of Michigan was recently targeted by far right terrorists for kidnapping and execution. They had a bunch of guns, they had explosives, they were going to blow up a bridge to facilitate the escape, they were going to have a show trial, and they were going to execute her. And here's the president basically siding with the terrorists.

This is a fascist movement. 40% of Americans are basically fascists. If it isn't fascism, it sure as fuck has all the main ingredients.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:26 am

Seabass wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:34 am
Bear in mind that the governor of Michigan was recently targeted by far right terrorists for kidnapping and execution. They had a bunch of guns, they had explosives, they were going to blow up a bridge to facilitate the escape, they were going to have a show trial, and they were going to execute her. And here's the president basically siding with the terrorists.

This is a fascist movement. 40% of Americans are basically fascists. If it isn't fascism, it sure as fuck has all the main ingredients.
That is truly OTT, Seabass. Trump supporters have been duped, sure, and the Republican Party has turned a blind eye to Trump's enabling of the truly fascist minority, but really, 40% fascist in the correct sense of the word? No way...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:06 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:26 am
Seabass wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:34 am
Bear in mind that the governor of Michigan was recently targeted by far right terrorists for kidnapping and execution. They had a bunch of guns, they had explosives, they were going to blow up a bridge to facilitate the escape, they were going to have a show trial, and they were going to execute her. And here's the president basically siding with the terrorists.

This is a fascist movement. 40% of Americans are basically fascists. If it isn't fascism, it sure as fuck has all the main ingredients.
That is truly OTT, Seabass. Trump supporters have been duped, sure, and the Republican Party has turned a blind eye to Trump's enabling of the truly fascist minority, but really, 40% fascist in the correct sense of the word? No way...


What's the problem? Obviously, we'd have to exclude children, so let's say 40% of eligible voters? Is that better?

Like I said, all the main ingredients:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitio ... mberto_Eco
  1. "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
  2. "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
  3. "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
  4. "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
  5. "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
  6. "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
  7. "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
  8. Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
  9. "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to not build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
  10. "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
  11. "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
  12. "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
  13. "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
  14. "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:31 am

If 40% of the eligible voters are fascist they would be under the corrupt American electoral system in power.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:51 am

There is no way at all that 40% of American voters would fit all or even most of those criteria. They have been manipulated and conned. You don't have to make such ridiculous claims about such a swathe of Americans to be certain that the Trump machine itself has serious fascist leanings, and must be defeated...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by NineBerry » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 am

About 70% of every larger group of people consists of dumb fuckers that have no idea how to think and have to spend all their mental power on tying their shoe laces twice a day. That's the sad reality.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by rainbow » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:17 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:51 am
There is no way at all that 40% of American voters would fit all or even most of those criteria. They have been manipulated and conned. You don't have to make such ridiculous claims about such a swathe of Americans to be certain that the Trump machine itself has serious fascist leanings, and must be defeated...
There also was no way 40% of Italians supported Mussolini when he came to power. The majority of were apathetic and uninformed.

He did manage to get the trains to run on time.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:21 pm

Why don't they like me? They are white like me!

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But it makes perfect emotional sense for a President who craves the applause of a zealous minority. His hunger for affirmation explains much about his conduct of the presidency -- and why it may soon come to an end.
Trump won the White House by eking out an Electoral College majority on the strength of a narrow but intense support base among less-educated White conservatives. He lost the popular vote, and became the first president in the era of modern polling never to reach 50% approval.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Why don't they like me? They are white like me!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics ... index.html

But it makes perfect emotional sense for a President who craves the applause of a zealous minority. His hunger for affirmation explains much about his conduct of the presidency -- and why it may soon come to an end.
Trump won the White House by eking out an Electoral College majority on the strength of a narrow but intense support base among less-educated White conservatives. He lost the popular vote, and became the first president in the era of modern polling never to reach 50% approval.
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Post by Tero » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:33 pm

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