All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

[rainbow]

What flood?

How many illegal immigrants is ok with you?

The US seems to have a bottomless demand for pool cleaners, garbage collectors, child minders, domestic cleaners, fruit pickers and so forth. Considering that 1,600,000 illegal border crossers were apprehended in 2000 and only 400,000 last year, I think the number of people who got through in 2000 were not creating problems. I can't see why a quarter of that number constitutes one now, let alone a state of fucking emergency.

This is the third time i pointed this out. To date neither Coito Two nor our member from Yellowknife has commented on that. How about it, fellas?

So you are wealthy and want cheap, foreign labour. Criminalize them, and you can get even more out of them!

I noticed you still haven't mentioned what is an acceptable amount of illegal immigration, but it's ok. I understand you need to avoid this issue in order to keep your 'domestic'.

I did answer:
"Sum is lotz"

Did you not appreciate that the stupidity of the question requires an equally stupid answer?

In future note this, so when you ask:
"what is an acceptable amount of murder?"
"what is an acceptable amount of traffic violations?"

...you will already have the answer.

[JimC]

What flood?

How many illegal immigrants is ok with you?

The US seems to have a bottomless demand for pool cleaners, garbage collectors, child minders, domestic cleaners, fruit pickers and so forth. Considering that 1,600,000 illegal border crossers were apprehended in 2000 and only 400,000 last year, I think the number of people who got through in 2000 were not creating problems. I can't see why a quarter of that number constitutes one now, let alone a state of fucking emergency.

This is the third time i pointed this out. To date neither Coito Two nor our member from Yellowknife has commented on that. How about it, fellas?

So you are wealthy and want cheap, foreign labour. Criminalize them, and you can get even more out of them!

I noticed you still haven't mentioned what is an acceptable amount of illegal immigration, but it's ok. I understand you need to avoid this issue in order to keep your 'domestic'.

You wilfully misunderstand Hermit. He isn't an American, is not wealthy, and needs no domestic...

He is merely pointing out US right-wing hypocrisy, in demonising illegal immigrants and at the same time needing them as low-paid servitors...

[Scot Dutchy]

Amazing. They think they know all the answers but of course that is what their Orange Scrotum does.

[Hermit]

I noticed you still haven't mentioned what is an acceptable amount of illegal immigration, but it's ok.

I have, but you missed it. Historically speaking, no matter how many undocumented migrants have succeeded in crossing the border over the decades, they all have been acceptable. Now let me ask you: What is an acceptable amount of undocumented immigration in your opinion? And: Is there a point at which undocumented immigration becomes a crisis in your opinion? If so, at what point is the crisis so grave that it justifies declaring a national emergency?

I understand you need to avoid this issue in order to keep your 'domestic'.

Not living in the US, and neither employing a domestic nor desiring to employ one, I don't. Not that that is even relevant. What is relevant is that the undocumented immigrants, approximately 10.6 million of them in 2016, prefer to live and work in the US rather than whatever place they hail from.

[Scot Dutchy]

How many undocumented immigrants are there? That is an approximation. What is the range acceptable?
Like almost everything in America you have not got a clue. Statistics are a farce. Like employment figures. How many undocumented immigrants have full time work? Here is another how many Americans dont take part in American society?

Sure, Unemployment Went Down - Because More People Left The Workforce

That are all estimations and just prove quoting data in America is very dodgy.

[Tero]

Give them all a visa. That is what Reagan did. Then we’ll know how many!

[Tero]

Plays too much golf! Uses executive power too much! Kills babies! Oh that was Obama.

[Hermit]

[Tero]

Trump: In El Paso, they have 2000 murders on the other side of the wall. They had 23 murders.

Tero: And the 2000 murderers had targets to murder on US side? Plus: to stop the 23 murders on US side, just take away all hand guns. Maybe one rifle murder after that. Or knives. But I can run away from a knife and go on the other side of the street when I see a likely brown person in a hoodie.

[Tero]

TRUMP EMERGENCY
In allowing it to happen, Republicans will be yet again demonstrating their collective lack of spine, their loss of any moral compass and their willingness to sacrifice what is best for the country at the altar of political expediency and avoidance of wrathful backlash from Trump and his base. As history immortalizes this moment in time, it will not be kind to the GOP.

It is left to the Democrats to try to do what they can to prevent this atrocious power grab. It was inevitable that Trump would take this route. He had no other choice — for several reasons.

First, for so long, it was obvious that his wall would be an impossibility because it was so ill-fated, badly thought out, and based on outright lies and untruths.

He is about to sign a deal that is anathema to those very voices who convinced him not to take the prior deals — Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc., — who believe anything less than full funding for the wall would be unacceptable.

Again, the only way out for him politically is to declare a national emergency.

Declaring a national emergency for what is clearly not an emergency is most likely illegal, will weaken him and ultimately weaken the Republicans and the office of the presidency.

It is obvious that the need for the wall is actually no national emergency at all.

It is already established that his reasoning for the wall in the first place is all based lies and his own (and his base’s) anti-immigrant tendencies. If the situation on the border was a real emergency, why is it more so now than before the 35 days he kept the government closed because he didn’t get the funding for the wall?
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration ... nevitabile

[Cunt]

I noticed you still haven't mentioned what is an acceptable amount of illegal immigration, but it's ok.

I have, but you missed it. Historically speaking, no matter how many undocumented migrants have succeeded in crossing the border over the decades, they all have been acceptable. Now let me ask you: What is an acceptable amount of undocumented immigration in your opinion? And: Is there a point at which undocumented immigration becomes a crisis in your opinion? If so, at what point is the crisis so grave that it justifies declaring a national emergency?

I've noticed you still didn't say, so I'll stop answering your questions.

I'll leave you with another question though, rather than answering your last. (just like you did to me)

How rare are national emergencies in the US? Is this a VERY DRAMATIC MAJOR EVENT!?!?!? Or is it just another boring administration, with a better handle on making their boring actions sound dramatic and important?

I understand you need to avoid this issue in order to keep your 'domestic'.

Not living in the US, and neither employing a domestic nor desiring to employ one, I don't. Not that that is even relevant. What is relevant is that the undocumented immigrants, approximately 10.6 million of them in 2016, prefer to live and work in the US rather than whatever place they hail from.

You can't even acknowledge that their behaviour is criminal, so I can't see how you could understand the implications of that reality.

Go back to a subject you are willing to engage in. This one clearly has too many triggers for you.

I can run away from a knife and go on the other side of the street when I see a likely brown person in a hoodie.

Tero, your open racism is getting boring.

[Tero]

I just put that in to see if my trolling still works.

[Tero]

[Scot Dutchy]

Some precedent:

Trump national emergency - A major land grab by the president

After his failure to win support from Congress for his demand to fund the building of his border wall, Donald Trump was left with a series of unpalatable choices.

This is a major land grab by the president.

It undermines the powers of Congress and sets a very dangerous precedent.

Let's spin forward a few years, and it is a Democrat who is in the White House.

There is a mass shooting somewhere. The president can't force through much tighter gun control measures through Congress, but will now have the Trump card to play.

I see your objections, and raise you a national emergency.

Bang (wrong word). Tighter gun control measures are introduced.

Once again none functioning braincells.

[Cunt]

Some precedent:

Trump national emergency - A major land grab by the president

After his failure to win support from Congress for his demand to fund the building of his border wall, Donald Trump was left with a series of unpalatable choices.

This is a major land grab by the president.

It undermines the powers of Congress and sets a very dangerous precedent.

Let's spin forward a few years, and it is a Democrat who is in the White House.

There is a mass shooting somewhere. The president can't force through much tighter gun control measures through Congress, but will now have the Trump card to play.

I see your objections, and raise you a national emergency.

Bang (wrong word). Tighter gun control measures are introduced.

Once again none functioning braincells.

The Dutch don't understand guns, much less gun rights in the US