All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:49 am

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:04 am

Trump in charge as we go to war with China!? --jesus christ

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:49 pm

Here is a poll for you guys:
Will Trump start his 2024 campaign against Kamala:
-- Before Christmas
-- at the start of 2021
-- or during 2022 election season
????
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm

as soon as Amy is enthroned in SCOTUS and ready to declare her a non native citizen.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:50 pm

The Trump boast of 'defeating ISIS' is a common refrain heard from the sweaty lardbutt himself as well as his supporters, including the cheerleader who flounced from this site. I think many people are fooled by that claim, but an analysis shows that the Trump administration took over what was already a successful initiative from the Obama presidency.

'Who really defeated the Islamic State – Obama or Trump?'
One common claim by President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign has been that his administration beat IS, or what’s formally known as the Islamic State terrorist group.

It came up most recently in the vice presidential debate, when Mike Pence boasted, “We destroyed the ISIS caliphate. … You know when President Trump came into office, ISIS had captured an area of the Middle East the size of Pennsylvania. President Trump unleashed the American military, and our armed forces destroyed the ISIS caliphate and took down their leader al-Baghdadi without one American casualty.”

Similar victory claims have been made by Trump himself dating back to October 2017 and include him saying “We’ve done more against ISIS in nine months than the previous administration has done during its whole administration – by far, by far.” Other statements in March 2018 and February 2019 include Trump’s boast “on terrorism, in Iraq and Syria, we’ve taken back almost 100%, in a very short period of time, of the land that they took. And it all took place since our election.”

I am a scholar who tracks the Islamic State group and its affiliates. I pay careful attention to where the group is active and holds territory as part of a University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth project I lead called MappingISIS.com.

Data I have collected – including from official reports issued by the State Department, the Global Anti-ISIS Coalition, the Pentagon, IHS Conflict Monitor, a think tank that provides data on wars, and other think tanks – show that the president’s claims are false: The Trump administration mostly finished the job, but the Obama administration launched the successful campaign against the Islamic State, and did roughly half the work the president is trying to claim credit for.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:08 pm

'fraid neither has come close. Obie managing to pay osama bin laden back for what he did was a strong blow, but a battle won does not the war decide.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:17 pm

I think the Dems are missing a trick by not referring to him as 'The Kiddy Fiddler In Chief' at every opportunity. :tea:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:18 pm

I heard he told a rally that he wanted to be the first Pres to hold office for 12 years.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:48 pm

It's one of my favorite talking points when arguing with Trumpers: what's it like to support a president who's obviously never been interested in US history, or even the presidency?

It's also one of the worst things about the US.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:48 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:48 pm
It's one of my favorite talking points when arguing with Trumpers: what's it like to support a president who's obviously never been interested in US history, or even the presidency?

It's also one of the worst things about the US.
Their answer, if they were in a truthful mood, would be that we don't give a fuck about history either...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:47 pm

He who controls the past controls the future.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:52 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:50 pm
The Trump boast of 'defeating ISIS' is a common refrain heard from the sweaty lardbutt himself as well as his supporters, including the cheerleader who flounced from this site. I think many people are fooled by that claim, but an analysis shows that the Trump administration took over what was already a successful initiative from the Obama presidency.

'Who really defeated the Islamic State – Obama or Trump?'
One common claim by President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign has been that his administration beat IS, or what’s formally known as the Islamic State terrorist group.

It came up most recently in the vice presidential debate, when Mike Pence boasted, “We destroyed the ISIS caliphate. … You know when President Trump came into office, ISIS had captured an area of the Middle East the size of Pennsylvania. President Trump unleashed the American military, and our armed forces destroyed the ISIS caliphate and took down their leader al-Baghdadi without one American casualty.”

Similar victory claims have been made by Trump himself dating back to October 2017 and include him saying “We’ve done more against ISIS in nine months than the previous administration has done during its whole administration – by far, by far.” Other statements in March 2018 and February 2019 include Trump’s boast “on terrorism, in Iraq and Syria, we’ve taken back almost 100%, in a very short period of time, of the land that they took. And it all took place since our election.”

I am a scholar who tracks the Islamic State group and its affiliates. I pay careful attention to where the group is active and holds territory as part of a University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth project I lead called MappingISIS.com.

Data I have collected – including from official reports issued by the State Department, the Global Anti-ISIS Coalition, the Pentagon, IHS Conflict Monitor, a think tank that provides data on wars, and other think tanks – show that the president’s claims are false: The Trump administration mostly finished the job, but the Obama administration launched the successful campaign against the Islamic State, and did roughly half the work the president is trying to claim credit for.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:59 pm

laklak wrote:
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He who controls the past controls the future.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:28 pm

laklak wrote:He who controls the past controls the future.
But he who controls the Spice controls the Universe.
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