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He hasn't gone that bad, but he has slipped into ranting old man territory with some of his anti-pc stuff.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 amThe most worrying thing about watching a person slide over a number of years from a rational, sane person, to a complete crank, is that you end up worrying if it could happen to you or anyone you know. Like imagine if, for instance, if Dawkins started supporting creationism and started making really bad arguments he has to know are shit and quoting and referencing Answers in Genesis. What type of psychosis or loss of mental faculty or impairment would someone like that have to suffer from to fall to the wayside like that?
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"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
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"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
"The Western world is fucking awesome because of mostly white men" - DaveDodo007.
"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
Re: Media Bias
The list of sites referenced to by Seabass suggests otherwise. He's in tinfoil hat territory by the sound of it.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:52 amHe hasn't gone that bad, but he has slipped into ranting old man territory with some of his anti-pc stuff.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 amThe most worrying thing about watching a person slide over a number of years from a rational, sane person, to a complete crank, is that you end up worrying if it could happen to you or anyone you know. Like imagine if, for instance, if Dawkins started supporting creationism and started making really bad arguments he has to know are shit and quoting and referencing Answers in Genesis. What type of psychosis or loss of mental faculty or impairment would someone like that have to suffer from to fall to the wayside like that?
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In Faulty Two's defence I feel duty-bound to point out that most of the stuff he quotes from the tinfoil hat sites is not tinfoil hat material. I don't recall him ever trumpeting their birther stuff, pizzagate, global warming as a Chinese conspiracy and so forth. H does hold a lot of mainstream liberal values as well, such as the ones concerning homosexuality, abortion rights and so forth.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:02 amThe list of sites referenced to by Seabass suggests otherwise. He's in tinfoil hat territory by the sound of it.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:52 amHe hasn't gone that bad, but he has slipped into ranting old man territory with some of his anti-pc stuff.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 amThe most worrying thing about watching a person slide over a number of years from a rational, sane person, to a complete crank, is that you end up worrying if it could happen to you or anyone you know. Like imagine if, for instance, if Dawkins started supporting creationism and started making really bad arguments he has to know are shit and quoting and referencing Answers in Genesis. What type of psychosis or loss of mental faculty or impairment would someone like that have to suffer from to fall to the wayside like that?
That said, his continual MacCarthyite incantations, belief in trickle-down economics and advocacy of the Chicago School of economics, particularly as preached by Milton Friedman, places him well right of centre.
And yes, as far as poverty in the US is concerned, he just about denies it exists by means of comparing the dollar income of poverty stricken US citizens with the poor in Bangladesh and similar countries. That truly stinks, and my impression that he does not mind engaging in occasional dishonesty is not assuaged by his repeated failures to legitimise the literally fantastic data he has lifted from The Heritage Foundation.
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No I'm talking about Dawkins.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:02 amThe list of sites referenced to by Seabass suggests otherwise. He's in tinfoil hat territory by the sound of it.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:52 amHe hasn't gone that bad, but he has slipped into ranting old man territory with some of his anti-pc stuff.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 amThe most worrying thing about watching a person slide over a number of years from a rational, sane person, to a complete crank, is that you end up worrying if it could happen to you or anyone you know. Like imagine if, for instance, if Dawkins started supporting creationism and started making really bad arguments he has to know are shit and quoting and referencing Answers in Genesis. What type of psychosis or loss of mental faculty or impairment would someone like that have to suffer from to fall to the wayside like that?
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"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
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"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
"The Western world is fucking awesome because of mostly white men" - DaveDodo007.
"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
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He did buy into the "Hillary has epilepsy" (or whatever ailment it was) conspiracy theory.Hermit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:09 amIn Faulty Two's defence I feel duty-bound to point out that most of the stuff he quotes from the tinfoil hat sites is not tinfoil hat material. I don't recall him ever trumpeting their birther stuff, pizzagate, global warming as a Chinese conspiracy and so forth. H does hold a lot of mainstream liberal values as well, such as the ones concerning homosexuality, abortion rights and so forth.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:02 amThe list of sites referenced to by Seabass suggests otherwise. He's in tinfoil hat territory by the sound of it.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:52 amHe hasn't gone that bad, but he has slipped into ranting old man territory with some of his anti-pc stuff.Animavore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:21 amThe most worrying thing about watching a person slide over a number of years from a rational, sane person, to a complete crank, is that you end up worrying if it could happen to you or anyone you know. Like imagine if, for instance, if Dawkins started supporting creationism and started making really bad arguments he has to know are shit and quoting and referencing Answers in Genesis. What type of psychosis or loss of mental faculty or impairment would someone like that have to suffer from to fall to the wayside like that?
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"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
"The Western world is fucking awesome because of mostly white men" - DaveDodo007.
"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
Re: Media Bias
The question needs to ne asked; why is he even on these sites? And why post from those sites? Why not look for the source and post that link?
Nah. Not really buying it. My Google bubble wouldn't even give me those sites as top searches because I'm no where near them.
Nah. Not really buying it. My Google bubble wouldn't even give me those sites as top searches because I'm no where near them.
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Because, as I just mentioned above, many of his views are well right of centre. That is pretty much obvious to everyone with a modicum of understanding, except for him. I wish Coito Two would wake up to his cognitive dissonance one day. His protestations to the contrary don't wash because disapproval of such things as abortion, belief in pizzagate stories, birther myths and Chinese global warming conspiracies are more accurately labelled as socially or politically conservative than economically right wing.
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Being a Russian troll he has no options. Hey Dmitri your masters in Moscow are tough are they not. Siberia is not pleasant.
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Meaningless drivel. You mentioned "government", not I.
We are talking about the state owning the infrastructure.
Please pay attention.
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It is not a question of who owns what but who controls what. We have almost nothing in state ownership but the state controls everything rigidly. The state sets the standards business has to conform.
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Such a great country. Freedom of liberty?
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True in some cases, but normally ownership means control. An old Capitalist idea.Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:45 amIt is not a question of who owns what but who controls what. We have almost nothing in state ownership but the state controls everything rigidly. The state sets the standards business has to conform.
In the Corporate Era, ownership isn't necessary for control, but that's off topic.
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Yes, Hayek is a liberal economist who won a Nobel Price in Economics for his pioneering work in the theory of money and economic fluctuations and for their penetrating analysis of interdependence of economic, social and institutional phenomena.
Hayek wrote, in "Road to Serfdom", the following, by way of example -- "Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
I mean, if you knew anything at all, which you obviously don't, you'd be aware that Hayek even wrote a piece called "Why I Am Not A Conservative." https://www.press.uchicago.edu/books/ex ... ution.html
So, yeah, you got that straight. I have a Hayek quote in my sig, with Hayek being one of the preeminent liberal economists of the 20th century. But, you're so fucking dopey-ass "Progressive" that you think that's "conservative." Fucking hell dude....
Yes, Ludwig Von Mises is also one of the preeminent liberal economists of the 20th century. He wrote, Liberalism: In the Classic Tradition, and it is his statement in defense of a "free society." He wrote "The program of liberalism, therefore, if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property, that is, private ownership of the means of production... All the other demands of liberalism result from this fundamental demand."
He recommended the "complete separation of church and state." He recommended political decentralization. He favored freedom of movement relative to immigration. He praised the cultural virtues of tolerance. He defended "rationalism" as the essential foundation of "liberal political order." He discusses the relationship of liberalism to politics and special intersts. https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/Li ... tion_3.pdf
I mean - why don't you fucking read something?
That depends what they are reporting on. I don't credit that list as "news" sources, for sure - since they weren't news agencies, newspapers, or news outlets. Those are commentators and pundits espousing a position or an argument - commentary and discussion. I cited most of those on rare occasions. Rare occasions. Mostly, I cite mainstream news items for news. And, I have cited as many far left sources as you listed there. Only you don't pay attention to that. To you, if someone cites the "wrong" source, you label them and scream at them, because you're a total douche. You don't care that I've also cited The Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, CBC, ABC, NBC, BBC, CBC, ABC (Oz), Daily Kos, Think Progress, Mother Jones, Talking Points Memo, Reason, Salon, Alternet, Slate, Huffington Post, The Nation, Moveon.org, Politifact, RedState, Hotair, Mediaite, Media Matters, Real Clear Politics, Politico, Truthout, Democracy Now, Socialist Party USA and the list goes on and on.
You are. Not only are they wacky, but you don't even understand the foundations and underpinnings of your own wacky political views. You just parrot them, like an NPC or a robot.
LOL - sure you are.
Mine are liberal. Yours are "Progressive Leftist."
Which views? Pro choice on abortion? Anti-death penalty? Atheism? Separation of Church and State? Pro-rights of the accused? Pro-First Amendment rights of freedom of speech, press, association and religion? Pro rights against unreasonable search and seizure? Pro-right to assisted suicide? Pro-legal immigration?
You'll have to be specific on which views of mine you claim are "far right."
Go ahead, admit it.
Assface, I have never been resistant to telling you my view on any issue. Just ask. What view of mine do you suspect to be outside the mainstream?
LOL. You're a Progressive Leftist, which makes you abnormal.
Everyone else? LOL. As if "everyone else" believes what you believe.
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If you want to proselytise Trumpism at the rest of us, fine, but don't talk to those of us who do not accept Trump as the one true god and savior like we're the fanatical ones. You're the fanatic. Even in the US you're in the minority 35% that still supports trump. Outside the US? Forget about it. The rest of the world hates the fat orange prick.
Are you referring to the same polls that said he hand almost no chance of being elected in 2016? Good on ya! Keep on with your echo chamber.
If you look at "likely voters" he's at 50% -- and I couldn't care less about what folks outside the US think. They're fed a "daily diet of propaganda" as you put it, only they think what they're fed is not propaganda.
Zogby thinks you have cause for concern -- https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/ ... 1b114d2bc2
Anyway - I don't know if he'll win in 2020. I didn't think he'd win in 2016. I was shocked as all hell. I don't shill for Trump, and I oppose some of his policies. What I will say is that he's done a great job overall, and if you'd like to argue that, then please, by all means, let's argue specifics. Can it with the "orange prick" nonsense and the never-ending stream of ad hominem that comes from your political ilk. Look at the bills he's signed, the regulations he's passed and repealed, the measures he's taken as President, and juxtapose that against the results and present state of affairs. Make a reasoned argument. Fuck off with the "orange man bad" and "everyone hates the racist, islamaphobe ,xenophobe, misogynist" in the white house. Your arguments are generally fourth or fifth grade level. Try to make a high school level argument, if you can.
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I addressed the infrastructure. Try reading something before you puke your bullshit.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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