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Re: Media Bias

Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:57 pm

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Rum » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:35 pm

It strikes me that impartiality is pretty much impossible. Whether reporters are bringing their cultural and social baggage to what they report, however unconsciously, or whether you are a rag like the Daily Mail that deliberately spins everything to create right wing rage and disgust.

What seems to be different, in some parts of the world anyway these days, is the lack of pretence at objectivity. People do catch on though. The BBC World Service, admired for its relative impartiality at any rate is listened to from Africa to South Asia as a source that can be trusted not to be directly eating out the the hands of the local powers that be.

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Re: Media Bias

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Rum wrote:
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It strikes me that impartiality is pretty much impossible. Whether reporters are bringing their cultural and social baggage to what they report, however unconsciously, or whether you are a rag like the Daily Mail that deliberately spins everything to create right wing rage and disgust.

What seems to be different, in some parts of the world anyway these days, is the lack of pretence at objectivity. People do catch on though. The BBC World Service, admired for its relative impartiality at any rate is listened to from Africa to South Asia as a source that can be trusted not to be directly eating out the the hands of the local powers that be.
Impartiality IS pretty much impossible.

Look at yourself (or MYself) and you'll see regular people with an opinion to back up.

The way it usually works is that one listens to both sides of an issue. With the academia leaning, that makes it nearly impossible.

Seriously, Rick Mehta was fired for having a divergent opinion - and HE was a tenured professor.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Animavore » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:14 pm

The news is one thing, but for many right-wing Americans the left has infiltrated all aspects of the media and Hollywood is an enemy.

In the last few years I've seen right-wing people throw tantrums over Disney diversifying their movies by adding stories from people of colour (like Moana). I've read an out-pouring of right-wing grief because some movie or other went mainly female or black (laughably Black Panther was dubbed racist for a lack of white people). I've seen comment sections lit on Alt-Right fire because some video game or other had female or LGBT representation. And on and on. A litany of mostly white, male tears.

But what is the alternative they propose? Disney, a Worldwide studio looking to tap into global markets, only make Snow White movies? That they make movies which represent white supremacy, homophobic views, and extreme forms of sexism that will be massively unpopular, won't sell and attack the people under their employment? Do they want WW2 movies sympathetic to Adolf Hitler or colonialism?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:34 pm

That's what people like Cunt and 42 want: The American Dream for whites only.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:08 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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That's what people like Cunt and 42 want: The American Dream for whites only.
Are you assuming my race?

Or am I a self-hating race-traitor who wants white supremacy, in your fantasy world?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Rum » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:13 pm

Self righteous liberalism can be every bit as prejudiced and blinkered as your average libtard. Just sayin’

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:19 pm

Rum wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:13 pm
Self righteous liberalism can be every bit as prejudiced and blinkered as your average libtard. Just sayin’
Of course it can. And real bias (the significant kind) is invisible to the user.

The media bias to the left is clear, but wasn't as clear when I limited myself to lefty (agreeable) sources.

I've learned very little from those who agree with me.
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Joe wrote:
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Animavore wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:14 pm
The news is one thing, but for many right-wing Americans the left has infiltrated all aspects of the media and Hollywood is an enemy.

In the last few years I've seen right-wing people throw tantrums over Disney diversifying their movies by adding stories from people of colour (like Moana). I've read an out-pouring of right-wing grief because some movie or other went mainly female or black (laughably Black Panther was dubbed racist for a lack of white people). I've seen comment sections lit on Alt-Right fire because some video game or other had female or LGBT representation. And on and on. A litany of mostly white, male tears.

But what is the alternative they propose? Disney, a Worldwide studio looking to tap into global markets, only make Snow White movies? That they make movies which represent white supremacy, homophobic views, and extreme forms of sexism that will be massively unpopular, won't sell and attack the people under their employment? Do they want WW2 movies sympathetic to Adolf Hitler or colonialism?
You certainly don't see any of that here. Who has criticized Moana? My kids have Moana dolls, Tiana dolls, and Elena of Avalor. I've never heard anyone - not even the right wingers here - say anything about there being Disney characters of different colors.

Where did you see anythinga bout Black Panther being black. Black Panther was always black.

Maybe there are some other forums where this happens.

Do you have any links or examples? Articles?

I would expect that there are some people who have bitched and moaned about a lot of different things. However, to say that there is any significant number of people ranting about Moana, etc, I think is a gross exaggeration. Where?
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Forty Two » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:24 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:34 pm
That's what people like Cunt and 42 want: The American Dream for whites only.
LOL. On what basis do you say this? Whites only? Fuck off, scumbag. Calling me a racist, you worthless little piece of shit.
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:26 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:24 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:34 pm
That's what people like Cunt and 42 want: The American Dream for whites only.
LOL. On what basis do you say this? Whites only? Fuck off, scumbag. Calling me a racist, you worthless little piece of shit.
Calling us 'white', too.

I think I see racism here, but maybe I should ask my non-white kid to help me identify it. I've been accused of that most awful of identities - whiteness.
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Joe wrote:
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he doesn't communicate

The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

Update: I've been offered one!
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Re: Media Bias

Post by Rum » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:33 pm

SD is nation-ist. Its the latest ‘ism’ you know. It’s deeply embedded and sadly there’s no cure once the mind if firmly shut tight.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:37 pm

Is 'nation-ist' similar to national pride? Patriotism?

Why is it so bad? I've heard patriotism by Queen-loving Brits, and it came out pretty damned nice. Made me wish I was one, and glad I live in a culture which was part of that old 'sun never sets' horseshit of old.
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Joe wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:22 pm
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The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

Update: I've been offered one!
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Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:23 pm
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Strong ideas don't require censorship to survive. Weak ideas cannot survive without it.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Rum » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:41 pm

No. It’s a prejudice against a country - like racism only focused on a country. I just invented it and I’m sure it will stick.

..here on my iPad watching rolling news on the brexit fiasco.

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Re: Media Bias

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:25 pm

Look I dont troll like our Russian cousins.
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