Interesting how that is portrayed - one side, the champion of the good, the generous, the self-less - they just want everyone to not be seen as competitors -- they don't want any monetary speculation, and they are in favor of helping economies (bot not for the dirty, vulgar reason of "making money" -- the EU has been a force for generosity, kindness and compassion, right?Rum wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:04 pmAll political blocks have enemies and rivals. Sadly it is the way of the world. They see each other as competitors one way and another - and of course go as far as killing each other in the process from time to time. The stupidity of men (mostly men anyway).Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:21 amThis a bit old but still valid:rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:01 am
In three years the UK has failed to negotiate a deal.
How long would it take for the UK to renegotiate all its trade deals?
...just your estimate, to the closest decade will do.
After Brexit: the UK will need to renegotiate at least 759 treaties
That does not include the vast amount of standards that have to be negotiated. It is huge and after their Brexit performance does really leave you wondering.
I am still with the notion that the whole sub plot of the right wing which is supported greatly by the world's 1% is the total destruction of the EU. It is not a lunatic conspiracy.
Bannon, although he is not the taste of the week, is not the only one but there lies a hard core in the 1% of the world (incl Russia) that hate big united free trade areas. They want to go back to the days of monetary speculation and cripple economies in order to make money. The EU has destroyed all their endeavours.
The Man Who Wants to Unmake the West
This is the real danger and many EU leaders and officials have often mentioned it.
The others -- they are the 1% -- just out for dirty money -- they don't cooperation, they want evil competition -- and speculation and they are out to cripple economies so they can make money on the crashed and crippled economies....
One side, good. Other side, evil. Can't even deal with the evils. They don't have a real position. The evils are dishonest from the get go. The good guys - Merkel - Juncker -- Donald Tusk - the European Council ,the Council of Europe - Euro Parliament - these folks are just out for what's best for the UK, like all members of the EU - they sit dumbfounded and aghast at how people would want to leave a group that does nothing but help its members equally - and all member boats are lifted by the rising tide of European success.
Just look at Italy - will there be a Quitaly? Perish the thought - the EU is so selfless, that all it's doing to helping Italy in a cooperative fashion ,and there is no possible way Italy could be better off outside the EU than in it. It would only be the forces of racism, deceit and bigotry that would suggest a Quitaly. We'll see when it gets hit with the "excessive debt procedure" for it's high-spending budgets. And, there is Greece again - which has elections coming up in October of this year - all it will take is a few more hateful bigots to be elected who well sell the damnable lie of Grexit to to the Greek people.....
The Polish prime minister said a Polexit is possible too - he called it "deadly serious."
So - you know - the portents of doom can't possibly be Europe's PR attempt to convince people that exiting the EU is a jumping from a frying pan into the fire - no not at all. After all, Poland and Greece and Italy - they're not in frying pans - they're in comfy, safe Sleep Number Beds - set to their particular preferences -- they'd be jumping from Shangri-la to Hades.