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Post by rainbow » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:20 am

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No, I'm serious. Neoliberalism is an insidious and destructive ideology. You might have got a temporary economic boost by selling off public infrastructure and transferring state debt to private hands, but in the end the state of the economy and society will always end up worsening.
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Post by Rum » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:36 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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well, it didn't start with the referendum, I fear it started when blair arrived at Downing Street, and only worsened when the tories replaced the right wing 'labourites".
Blair is and always will be tainted by Iraq, and quite rightly, but NewLabour did find a way to stimulate the economy, encourage business and therefore increase the tax take and then to direct it at social/public issues.
Do you have link regarding increased tax intake?

What did private and public debt do during his time? What did inequality do during this time?
Well I'm not going to dig around too much when you can perfectly well do so if you are interested. My comments were based on personal experience being at the coal face at the time. However, a quick google gets you this, for example:

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5509 ... er-labour/


...and a quote from the page: '

"During the period 1997-2007, the UK economy was growing strongly (at an average of around 2.5%), this rise in tax revenues allowed the government to spend more on public services, such as health and education. However, towards the end of 2000-07 government spending increased at a slightly faster rate than GDP growth.
The biggest beneficiary of the government’s higher spending was health care. Health care spending almost doubled in real terms between 1999 and 2010."

I would add that education saw big increases too. I appointed 42 new members of staff for a project with 1 million the government gave the county because they liked the look of a project I proposed. Heady days!

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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:39 pm

rainbow wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:20 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:11 pm
No, I'm serious. Neoliberalism is an insidious and destructive ideology. You might have got a temporary economic boost by selling off public infrastructure and transferring state debt to private hands, but in the end the state of the economy and society will always end up worsening.
Arse about face.
The object is to privatise assets, and nationalise liabilities.
Not at all. The goal is to have the public personally pay for their former state services as much as possible. This is why we've seen a huge surge in private debt over the last 40 years. The state is transferring liability for services to the individual.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:37 am


Queen to be evacuated if Brexit turns ugly – reports


Cold war plans revived to move royals to safe locations away from London if unrest follows no deal


British officials have revived cold war emergency plans to relocate the royal family should there be riots in London if Britain suffers a disruptive departure from the European Union, two Sunday newspapers have reported.

“These emergency evacuation plans have been in existence since the cold war but have now been repurposed in the event of civil disorder following a no-deal Brexit,” the Sunday Times said, quoting an unnamed source from the government’s Cabinet Office, which handles sensitive administrative issues.

The Mail on Sunday also said it had learnt of plans to move the royal family, including Queen Elizabeth, to safe locations away from London.

n January an annual speech by the Queen, 92, to a women’s group was widely interpreted in Britain as a call for politicians to reach agreement over Brexit.

Jacob Rees-Mogg, a Conservative MP and keen supporter of Brexit, told the Mail on Sunday he believed the plans showed unnecessary panic by officials over a no-deal Brexit as senior royals had remained in London during bombing in the second world war.

But the Sunday Times said an ex-police officer formerly in charge of royal protection, Dai Davies, expected Queen Elizabeth would be moved out of London if there was unrest. “If there were problems in London, clearly you would remove the royal family away from those key sites,” Davies was quoted as saying...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ly-reports
Rees-Mogg isn't a patriot. The safety of our Britannic Majesty is of paramount importance to the nation. Traitor!! Just don't let Phillip do the driving.
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Post by Rum » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:24 pm

Nissan are buggering off too now due to ‘brexit uncertainty’.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:41 pm

I guess the story about the story about the Queen (!) is why the Cabinet Office, the Prime Minister's prime ministerial department, is 'leaking' such things to the Mail and Sunday Times?

Shawnuff, all the Sunday politics programmes took this as their top item, keeping the most recent of Mrs May's disastrous weeks in office further down the running order.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:04 am

...the queen to be evacuated in case of Brexit unrest! :lol:
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:23 am

I so hope that happens.
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Post by rainbow » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:34 am

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Nissan are buggering off too now due to ‘brexit uncertainty’.
Not entirely. You can still get a bullet-proof Infiniti SUV, I believe.
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Post by JimC » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:31 am

...and you'll probably need one...
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Post by rainbow » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:09 am

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...and you'll probably need one...
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:20 pm

Rum wrote:
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Nissan are buggering off too now due to ‘brexit uncertainty’.
Interesting, if they do intend to break away from the alliance with Renault, I'd expect them to stay in out of EU locations.
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Post by Rum » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:53 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:20 pm
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Nissan are buggering off too now due to ‘brexit uncertainty’.
Interesting, if they do intend to break away from the alliance with Renault, I'd expect them to stay in out of EU locations.
If one reads behind the Brexit headlines there are other, equally sound reasons for backing out of building their new diesel car in the NE of the UK, not least the global slowdown and the fact that diesel has more or less overnight became the steed of the devil!

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Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:20 pm

The NHS is stockpiling body bags to cope with no deal Brexit

A letter from health minister Stephen Hammond to a fellow MP, giving assurances to one of his constituents, confirmed the macabre course of action, in a bid to offer reassurance that the NHS will continue to operate despite the disruption.
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