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Post by JimC » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:48 am

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:35 am

Milton von Rothbard wrote:
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The UK needs to be free of the yoke of socialist Europe. Once this is achieved they will form a trading block with the USA, where capitalist freedoms will see both nations thrive.
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Post by NineBerry » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:47 am

It's not 42. Maybe a cousin of Clinton Huxley

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:03 am

Well he quoted a post of 42's from 2018.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:05 am

Reneging on Brexit deal would strengthen case for breaking up UK, government told
Johnson to deliver ultimatum to EU as minister defends plan as addressing ‘a few loose ends’

Reneging on any obligations under the Brexit withdrawal agreement would make the case for breaking up the UK stronger, the government has been warned, as a minister defended the plan as simply addressing “a few minor loose ends”.

After it emerged Boris Johnson is drawing up legislation that will override the Brexit withdrawal agreement on Northern Ireland, threatening the collapse of talks with the EU, the SNP said leaving without a deal would cause “lasting damage to Scottish jobs and the economy in the middle of a pandemic”.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:44 am

JimC wrote:
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Likely, but whose?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:04 pm

Boris is just another Trump.

EU has powers to punish UK if it breaches Brexit treaty, experts warn
European court of justice could fine UK or impose tariffs or sanctions on exports

The latest Brexit dispute could end up in the European court of justice if it breaches the withdrawal agreement signed by Boris Johnson in January, legal experts have warned.

A dispute would trigger a specific legal process ending in the Luxembourg court – and if the UK was found to have breached the international treaty it signed in January, the EU has powers to punish the country.

The court can impose a heavy fine on the UK, suspend part of the withdrawal agreement, launch trade wars and impose tariffs or even sanctions on British exports.

“Because the agreement is an international treaty, the EU could bring proceedings against the UK, under the dispute resolution mechanism of the agreement,” said Catherine Barnard, a European law professor at Cambridge University.

The Brexit process was thrown into jeopardy on Monday when it emerged that the government was planning to table proposals on Wednesday to give unilateral legal power to ministers to oversee elements of the the Northern Ireland protocol.
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Post by JimC » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:56 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:35 am
Milton von Rothbard wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 am
The UK needs to be free of the yoke of socialist Europe. Once this is achieved they will form a trading block with the USA, where capitalist freedoms will see both nations thrive.
Nice seeing you again 42. Your time here will not be long I am afraid so dont sit down.
Whoever it is is taking the piss out of conservatives, I suspect...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:17 am

Conservatives Jim?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:35 am

Leaked EU cables reveal growing mistrust of UK in Brexit talks
Brussels suspicions come as European commission chief warns Britain to abide by Northern Ireland protocol


Brussels’ plummeting trust in Boris Johnson has been laid bare in leaked diplomatic cables obtained by the Guardian, as the Brexit negotiations reopen in London with a warning from the European commission president that Britain must respect international law.

Ursula von der Leyen made her extraordinary intervention on Monday as Downing Street struggled to control the damage from disclosures suggesting it was backtracking on agreements made last year to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland.

“I trust the British government to implement the withdrawal agreement, an obligation under international law & prerequisite for any future partnership,” Von der Leyen posted on Twitter. “[The] protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland is essential to protect peace and stability on the island & integrity of the single market.”

The row over plans that could undermine the legal force of parts of the protocol on Northern Ireland came as leaked cables seen by the Guardian reveal the growing suspicion in Brussels of Britain’s motivations and strategy, said by sources to have been further damaged by the latest developments.
The Brits have shown once again they are unable to negotiate. The old gun boat tactics again. Johnson must be banking on a Trump victory as nobody else will save him. The chlorinated chicken are getting closer.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 am

Von der Leyen warns UK against breaking international law over Brexit deal
European commission chief responds to claims that No 10 plans to renege on withdrawal agreement
Who would make any agreement with the UK?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:51 am

Industry in the UK is very worried.

Business leaders warn Boris Johnson that Brexit deal is essential
Government told failure will damage UK economy as critical negotiations begin

Business leaders have warned Boris Johnson that securing a Brexit deal is essential for safeguarding Britain’s economic recovery from the coronavirus outbreak and avoiding higher prices in the shops for British consumers.

Sounding the alarm after the prime minister said no deal would be a “good outcome” for Britain and confirmed plans that could undermine the government’s commitment to the EU withdrawal agreement, business groups said failure to compromise in talks this week would severely damage Britain’s fragile economic recovery.

“Amid all the noise and negotiations, businesses in the UK and EU remain clear – a good deal is essential. An agreement will be the foundation for post-Covid recovery across the continent,” said Josh Hardie, deputy director general of the CBI, the business lobby group.

I wonder if we are going to see one of those famous Boris U-turns?
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:59 am

I must admit I'm confused over the whole thing. Didn't they already crash out without a deal? What are they dealing about now?
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Post by rainbow » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:08 am

Milton von Rothbard wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 am
The UK needs to be free of the yoke of socialist Europe. Once this is achieved they will form a trading block with the USA, where capitalist freedoms will see both nations thrive.
Meh.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:11 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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I must admit I'm confused over the whole thing. Didn't they already crash out without a deal? What are they dealing about now?
Negotiations officially finish 31st. December this year but they are not going anywhere.
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