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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:21 pm

Heading into chaos.

UK businesses demand urgent talks over fears of Brexit border chaos
Firms trading with EU want ministers to address major gaps in supply chain preparations

Businesses trading with the EU are demanding an urgent meeting with government ministers over concerns there are significant gaps in the UK’s Brexit border preparations.

Eight logistics organisations have written to say they fear the supply chain that keeps supermarket shelves stocked daily will be severely disrupted next year if issues are not resolved before Brexit.

They have expressed concern that some of the IT systems have not yet been tested and with four months to go there is not enough time to educate and train companies in the new systems, fuelling concerns of Brexit border chaos in January.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:30 pm

Downing Street has not disputed a claim that the prime minister thinks that the trade talks with the EU are now more likely than not to fail. In his Times column (paywall) today, the Spectator’s political editor James Forsyth says the hances of a Brexit deal have “receded significantly” recently. “Inside No 10, they now think there is only a 30 to 40% chance that there will be an agreement,” he writes. At the No 10 lobby briefing the spokesman not challenge that assessment, but he would not confirm it either. He would not comment on percentages, he said. He said the government still wanted a deal. But it needed “more realism” from the EU.

In his column Forsyth says state aid rules are the key sticking point, and particularly their implications for technology companies. He says:

The Johnson government wants to use the power of the state to mould and develop what it sees as the industries of the future. One figure with intimate knowledge of the negotiations and how they link to domestic policy tells me “state aid is critical if you are going to try and shape markets in technology” ...

The view in Downing Street is that this country needs to develop large technology companies at scale and that requires state involvement.


The concern is that unless the UK can do that, it will end up a technological vassal — reliant on either the United States or China, both of whom are unafraid to use the state to shape these markets.

Just think of the Huawei 5G debacle. As technology advances, there will be more and more cases where — unless there is a domestic supplier — the government will have to decide how comfortable it is depending on a foreign company, often with close links to its government, for the infrastructure that any successful 21st-century state is going to require.
Well that stinks of dictatorship, corruption and old boys clubs.

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:51 pm

so, business as usual?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:03 pm

Some things never change...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:18 pm

WTF. Abbot has got the job. The UK is so corrupt. How much lower can it sink?

Former Australian PM Tony Abbott confirmed as UK trade adviser
Critics say Abbott’s views on women and homosexuality and the climate crisis make him unfit for role

Boris Johnson has appointed Tony Abbott as an official UK trade adviser, defying widespread condemnation of the former Australian prime minister’s record of misogyny and homophobia and his views on the climate emergency.

Abbott, whose consideration for the role prompted criticism from opposition parties, charities and LGBT and environmental activists, is among nine external advisers appointed to the Board of Trade. The board, revived by Theresa May, is intended to help shape post-Brexit trade policy.

Liz Truss, the international trade secretary, who declined to defend Abbott’s views when asked about them in a TV interview last week, said the advisers were “a diverse group of people who share Britain’s belief in free enterprise, democracy and high standards and rules-based trade”.
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Post by JimC » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:56 pm

Abbott is a good fit with the Tories...
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:03 pm

can't deny it, they go together like dick and pig maw.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:30 am

An Aussie's opinion:

Brits, take it from an Aussie: If Tony Abbott is your solution, you've got big problems
Van Badham wrote:Our former PM has not only made deeply sexist remarks, he’s also inept – and unsuited to be anyone’s trade envoy

It’s true that Tony Abbott was a highly effective opposition leader.

Between 2013 and 2015, he was involved in enough domestic scandals, international embarrassments and local protests to damage the reputation of a sitting Australian prime minister.

Alas for Abbott, he was prime minister himself at the time.

We Australians have been obliged to reflect on the qualities of our former conservative “Liberal” leader at the prompting of the British. For reasons that are inexplicable to us, Abbott has been given the role of trade adviser by Boris Johnson’s government.

The Australian reaction to Abbott’s adviser appointment cannot be repeated, but it begins with a “W” and ends with “TF”. “Whichever Australian traded Tony Abbott to Britain,” remarked local cartoonist Jon Kudelka, “is the person Britain actually needs to help them with trade.” To appoint Abbott instead does not speak to qualification, or good governance – let alone anything like a desirable outcome. It speaks to “jobs for the boys” ideological loyalty that overrides history, fact and reason.

Dear cousins: my God. I fear chlorinated chicken is the least of your imported trading problems now.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:46 am

Van Badham is a Marxist, but on this occasion she is right.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:54 am

Another view of why Brexit:

The useful idiots of Brexit only make us less secure
William Keegan wrote:Trump, Putin and Xi all want to make Europe less powerful and united. Britain’s departure has offered them succour

When Brexit happens, “the EU will no longer exist”. So said Nigel Farage to Michel Barnier, who was to become the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, a few days after the 2016 referendum.

Barnier revealed this recently at the end of an interview with the French journalist Marion van Renterghem, about which she writes in the current issue of the New European.

Farage could hardly have been more wrong, but it was typical of that mountebank and his Brexit gang. The Brexiters assured the innocents who were naive enough to believe them that dealing with our partners in the rest of the EU would be a cakewalk, and that during their negotiations about a post-Brexit “deal” the UK would be able to have that cake they were walking towards and eat it.

Yes, fantasists such as Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and the dreaded “Eyetest” Cummings fooled people – possibly including themselves – that they could “take back control” while retaining all the advantages of the single market – the single market that was one of their heroine Margaret Thatcher’s proudest achievements.

But that was just convenient lying propaganda. As the impasse in the so-called Brexit “negotiations” demonstrates, if you renege on your referendum campaign promises and insist on leaving the customs union and the single market – hey presto, you lose the advantages of membership.

Throughout these fruitless talks, the Brexiters have complained about the “unreasonable” attitude of the rest of the EU. They somehow thought they would have formidable bargaining power even though, if you are resigning from a club, you are in a pathetically weak position about your future relationship
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:34 pm

...with friends like these eh?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:43 am

Arrogant snotarse wants to end negotiations.

Brexit: Johnson to override EU withdrawal agreement
Brexit: Johnson to override EU withdrawal agreement

Move threatens to collapse talks that PM has said must be completed within weeks

Boris Johnson is drawing up legislation that will override the Brexit withdrawal agreement on Northern Ireland, a move that threatens the collapse of crunch talks which the prime minister has said must be completed within five weeks.

Johnson will put an ultimatum to negotiators this week, saying the UK and Europe must agree a post-Brexit trade deal by 15 October or Britain will walk away for good.

But progress on the already fragile talks will be threatened by plans revealed on Sunday for the UK government to publish a controversial section of the internal market bill on Wednesday that will intentionally try to unpick parts of the withdrawal agreement signed in January. It will include elements of the special arrangements for Northern Ireland that are legally binding.

A UK government source told the Guardian the plan was part of the preparation for a no-deal exit that would present a number of new barriers to trade from Northern Ireland – and accepted that the move was likely to blow up at the negotiations this week.
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Post by Milton von Rothbard » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 am

The UK needs to be free of the yoke of socialist Europe. Once this is achieved they will form a trading block with the USA, where capitalist freedoms will see both nations thrive.

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