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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:41 am

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I'm not blaming you for anything, other than spamming the forum with your hate.
Who brings in the hate? You drip with it. If I spam according to you report me.

What do you know about Brexit? About as much as Vlad.
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Post by rainbow » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:08 am

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That really is it - some people look at that and see xenophobia. Others see a need for border control. Nobody denies Europe has a migration problem. It's not "xenophobic," in my opinion, to be in favor of fixing that.
You claim to be a regular visitor to the UK, yet you believe there is no border control.

You are either delusional or lying.

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Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:54 am

Forty Two wrote:
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It's weird, though, that rather than "racist invective", the first example given was of Nigel Farage standing in front of a picture of an actual line of economic migrants trying to get into Europe....
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Post by NineBerry » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 am

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:37 am
That really is it - some people look at that and see xenophobia. Others see a need for border control. Nobody denies Europe has a migration problem. It's not "xenophobic," in my opinion, to be in favor of fixing that.
Europe has a migration problem. Too little immigration. (And too little effort on integration on all sides)

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Post by NineBerry » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 am

In my opinion, Brexit should not be stopped. If it is stopped, there will be centuries of people saying "Everything could be better in Britain with a Brexit. Why didn't we do it? ". Britain should exit the EU, see how they get along on their own and then in maybe 10 or 20 years rejoin without all the exemptions and discounts they had before.

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Post by Rum » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:24 am

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 am
In my opinion, Brexit should not be stopped. If it is stopped, there will be centuries of people saying "Everything could be better in Britain with a Brexit. Why didn't we do it? ". Britain should exit the EU, see how they get along on their own and then in maybe 10 or 20 years rejoin without all the exemptions and discounts they had before.
We are British. Whatever the outcome people will complain and moan - it takes very little! The term 'whinging pom' didn't come from nowhere.

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 am

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 am
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:37 am
That really is it - some people look at that and see xenophobia. Others see a need for border control. Nobody denies Europe has a migration problem. It's not "xenophobic," in my opinion, to be in favor of fixing that.
Europe has a migration problem. Too little immigration. (And too little effort on integration on all sides)
Certainly an opinion you're entitled to. As is the reverse. Neither is per se racist or phobic.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:48 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 am
In my opinion, Brexit should not be stopped. If it is stopped, there will be centuries of people saying "Everything could be better in Britain with a Brexit. Why didn't we do it? ". Britain should exit the EU, see how they get along on their own and then in maybe 10 or 20 years rejoin without all the exemptions and discounts they had before.
I agree with you Nine. Once the rich Brexiteers have waddled off with their money there will be not much left.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:52 pm

Rum wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:24 am
NineBerry wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 am
In my opinion, Brexit should not be stopped. If it is stopped, there will be centuries of people saying "Everything could be better in Britain with a Brexit. Why didn't we do it? ". Britain should exit the EU, see how they get along on their own and then in maybe 10 or 20 years rejoin without all the exemptions and discounts they had before.
We are British. Whatever the outcome people will complain and moan - it takes very little! The term 'whinging pom' didn't come from nowhere.
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Post by Rum » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:27 pm

Nah - we complain about the weather more or less non stop but as soon as it hits 20C all you hear is people complaining it is too hot!

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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm

touché, I need 30 to complain about the heat.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:36 pm

In Edinburgh anything above 18C is moaned about because the old dears have not taken off their winter coats.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:30 am
It's weird, though, that rather than "racist invective", the first example given was of Nigel Farage standing in front of a picture of an actual line of economic migrants trying to get into Europe....
They were refugees.

It was a disgusting, racist poster that even leading Brexiters were keen to distance themselves from.
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Post by Rum » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:50 pm

I have no desire to defend Farage and his backward-looking xenophobia, but the poster in question just showed large numbers of people and the slogan was about taking back control from the EU. There was no real indication as to who they might be except that they looked vaguely middle eastern. Many people thought he was spreading fear about how many Turks would arrive when Turkey was admitted to the EU (something Farage played up but is of course a very dim and distant prospect).

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:59 pm

They were not economic immigrants either only a tiny minority. The photo was taken in Eastern Europe and were genuine refugees.
The Turks dont even have a snowballs chance in hell of ever making it into the EU. Even their present status is in doubt if they continue to persecute the Kurds.

We give Turks preferential treatment when they come here. The remains of the old "guest workers" agreement. This has been put under scrutiny.
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