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BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Animavore » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:33 pm

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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by rainbow » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:36 am

It started to rain, and the Scotsman said "let's go back in for a wee dram, until the weather clears'. The Irishman said "that's not a bad idea, at all, at all".

The Englishman said "No, I've already decided to leave."
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Re: New Brexit Referendum

Post by rainbow » Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:38 am

The only way out is for the EU to offer a delay on article 50, subject to a new referendum.
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Re: New Brexit Referendum

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:08 am

EU will not do it. Brexit is over for them. They made a deal and it is take it or leave it. It has already cost too much money and time. The EU countries affected will supported both financially and politically but no renegotiations.
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Re: Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:09 am

And stands outside by himself in the rain.
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:51 am

Guardian: Corbyn to table no confidence motion almost immediately if May loses Brexit vote
Jeremy Corbyn will table a motion of no confidence in the government almost immediately if Theresa May loses the Brexit vote next week, Labour is now saying.

This is what Barry Gardiner, the shadow international trade secretary, told the Today programme this morning.

"We’re now talking as if it is expected that the government next Tuesday will be defeated on the most important piece of legislation that has come before parliament probably in 50 or more years, that the government has devoted two years of its time to try to negotiate, and we’re now almost accepting that this will simply be defeated and voted down.

Obviously, the next thing to do immediately after that is for there to be a vote of confidence in the government."

Until now Labour has been rather coy about exactly when it might table a no confidence motion, with senior figures saying it is important to wait until the moment when they judge they have the best chance of winning. After Gardiner’s interview one senior party source played down the idea that Gardiner was making a firm statement about a possible no confidence vote next week.

But on Sky’s All Out Politics after 9pm Andrew Gwynne, the shadow communities secretary and Labour’s co-national campaigner coordinator, also said that Labour would table a no confidence motion soon after the Tuesday Brexit vote if Theresa May loses. Asked if he could “guarantee” that Labour would table a no confidence motion in those circumstances, he replied:

"Well, we want a general election. And the only way you can get a general election under the Fixed-term Parliaments Act is to table a vote of confidence."

When asked if he could guarantee this would happen, Gwynne said:

"In the event of Theresa May failing to get her deal through, we will be calling for a general election. And to do that, you have to table a motion of confidence."

Sky’s Adam Boulton asked if that meant a confidence vote would come “next week, basically” if May lost the vote. Gwynne replied: “Absolutely.”
The peppering of the media with policy shifts and initiatives over the last two weeks suggest they government has been preparing for the possibility of an election before B-Day.
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Post by Alan B » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:55 am

I think we should stay in the EU, then build up a fleet of Gunboats to protect our borders... :prof:

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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by rainbow » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:06 pm

Alan B wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:55 am
I think we should stay in the EU, then build up a fleet of Gunboats to protect our borders... :prof:

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Well maybe a rubber duck.
:thinks: Maybe if the contract is vague enough you could win this one?

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/seaborn ... -contract/
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:25 pm

Who cares? Stay? Go? It makes no difference.
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Jason » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:32 pm

Well a EU with the UK in it would be better positioned to take on the global role that the US is apparently set on abandoning. So... it does matter.

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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Alan B » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:03 pm

The Times
France and Germany join forces as a single superpower
France and Germany are to forge shared defence, foreign and economic policies in an unprecedented “twinning” arrangement regarded as a prototype for the future of the European Union.
Since we are leaving there's no point in asking us to join...

We'll just hang around and become lackies of the US.

I remember in the 1950s the headline in Die Welt imploring that the UK should become part of Europe. That was when we had an Army, Navy & Air force of some size and living off the remnants of an empire.
And now? We have to employ a pizza delivery company (with no boats) to patrol our waters to stop illegal immigrants because we don't have enough boats to back-up our fake image of 'Great' Britain.

Successive governments have made us a laughing stock and a centre for money laundering and tax evasion.

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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by JimC » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:49 pm

What happens when May loses her vote?
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:20 pm

the brits will either learn to swim in their own shit of sink to the bottom of their own cess pool
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:43 pm

Alan B wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:03 pm
The Times
France and Germany join forces as a single superpower
France and Germany are to forge shared defence, foreign and economic policies in an unprecedented “twinning” arrangement regarded as a prototype for the future of the European Union.
Since we are leaving there's no point in asking us to join...

We'll just hang around and become lackies of the US.

I remember in the 1950s the headline in Die Welt imploring that the UK should become part of Europe. That was when we had an Army, Navy & Air force of some size and living off the remnants of an empire.
And now? We have to employ a pizza delivery company (with no boats) to patrol our waters to stop illegal immigrants because we don't have enough boats to back-up our fake image of 'Great' Britain.

Successive governments have made us a laughing stock and a centre for money laundering and tax evasion.

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You're just going to have to change your name to "Mediocre Britain."
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:44 pm

Jason wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:32 pm
Well a EU with the UK in it would be better positioned to take on the global role that the US is apparently set on abandoning. So... it does matter.
Why? According to the continentals here, the UK is a substandard drag on the continent. They'd be better off without the UK-ers anyway, no? What do they need the UK for? It's army?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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