Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

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Post by Animavore » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:02 pm

Another mob henchman on the wanted list?
Mueller Hints That Mike Pence May Be Indicted Soon

Mike Pence thought he could avoid controversy, and stay far enough away from Trump’s criminal scandals to inherit the presidency after Trump’s ouster. He even thinks that is God’s will.

The problem with this thinking is that it would mean Pence had to avoid not just controversy, but also criminal behavior. But it seems it hasn’t worked out that way.

By associating himself with Donald Trump, Pence got his hands very dirty, and now many more people have figured that out, thanks to Robert Mueller.

Special Counsel Mueller released his heavily redacted 13-page sentencing memo for Michael Flynn on Tuesday night, he did NOT redact one key piece of information. The memo clearly states that the Trump transition team was heavily involved in Flynn’s illegal dealings with Russia.

And, as everyone now remembers, the person in charge of that transition team was none other than vice president-elect Mike Pence.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Joe » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:08 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 am
That is exactly what the right wing want anxious and scared people. Easy to manipulate. Americans have this illusion that they think they are free when in fact they are prisoners of their society.
Terrified of health, movement, work and social conditions. A dog eat dog mentality. No job security. Who would not be anxious is such a society.
When Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren agree on something, there may be something to it.

"The system is rigged."

At some level, most Americans feel this to be true.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:00 am

Unrepenting, irredeemable scum.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:11 am

I hate Obamacare. I don't know why they just don't ask me to pay into a system with the promise that my participation means I can also take out of the system when needed within reason.

As it is now, they're taking money and providing me absolutely nothing. In other words, I'm paying into a system that I have to then pay into again every time I use it. I guess that's just a long way to say my mandatory insurance is fucking worthless.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:51 pm

A REAL scandal is the one sided coverage, hour by hour, of networks like NBC & Democrat spin machines like Saturday Night Live. It is all nothing less than unfair news coverage and Dem commercials. Should be tested in courts, can’t be legal? Only defame & belittle! Collusion?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2018
Awww, crybaby wanna Fairness Doctrine?

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:04 pm

He really is a manchild.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:23 pm

Lol. He think SNL is news.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:28 pm

Well he is used to FOX news.
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Post by Rum » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:17 pm

But but it is socialised medicine. The work of Satin or comoonists !!

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:54 pm

Remember, Michael Cohen only became a “Rat” after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkable & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started. They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE! Why didn’t they break into the DNC to get the Server, or Crooked’s office?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2018
Of course he's still pushing the 'DNC never gave the FBI its servers!!!' bullshit. It's nonsense, and the claim that obtaining a search warrant and then searching an attorney's office is 'illegal' is simply a lie.

1. The DNC gave the FBI cloned copies (images) of its servers. This is standard procedure in cybercrime investigations.
When cyber investigators respond to an incident, they capture that evidence in a process called “imaging.” They make an exact byte-for-byte copy of the hard drives. They do the same for the machine’s memory, capturing evidence that would otherwise be lost at the next reboot, and they monitor and store the traffic passing through the victim’s network. This has been standard procedure in computer intrusion investigations for decades. The images, not the computer’s hardware, provide the evidence. Both the DNC and the security firm Crowdstrike, hired to respond to the breach, have said repeatedly over the years that they gave the FBI a copy of all the DNC images back in 2016.
2. Though it's not common, the FBI does occasionally find it necessary to search attorneys' offices, and of course if it does so it follows the law by first obtaining a search warrant. Any information gained through a warrantless search would almost certainly be inadmissable in support a prosecution case.
CUOMO: Now a lot of people picked up on this and said, "I can't believe they did this. This is illegal. You cannot go after the attorney-client privilege. It is sacrosanct." It's nice to see the legal profession respected for a change. However, that's just not true.

TOOBIN: It is not true. And this is not the first lawyer's office that's ever been searched. As I said earlier, it's unusual, but it has been done many, many times.
3. Calling Cohen a 'Rat' echoes the language of career criminals which isn't surprising coming from Trump, I suppose, but neither is it any reassurance that Trump is innocent of wrongdoing.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:59 pm

Search warrants are a joke. It's a shame Trump is such a shithead, because exposing the bullshit may have been good for us.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:02 pm

By 'joke' do you mean that search warrants are too easy to obtain? How would you reform the process?

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:07 pm

Yes. I'm not sure the process is the problem. The problem is that you have a team vs the people. Police and judges shouldn't feel as though they are on a team. They aren't.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:47 pm

I think it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but generally I think you have a point. Since you didn't offer anything constructive, I'll offer something. What do you think of a citizens' ombudsman being involved in the scrutiny of search warrant applications? There are a couple of problems with that which come to mind--it could really impede progress in urgent cases, and unless the ombudsman served a rather brief term, they could end up considering themself 'part of the team' along with the police and the magistrates/judges.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:05 pm

The lawyer-client relationship is not a confessional. If the relationship was sacrosanct and protected from investigatory scrutiny then every criminal would be a lawyer (rather than just every lawyer being a criminal!).
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