WTF is going in in France Svarty?

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WTF is going in in France Svarty?

Post by Rum » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:52 pm

I can sort of understand the fuel protests - nobody likes to pay more tax even if it is going to help save the planet (it seems), but now we just seem to be entering lawlessness territory with disparate interest groups from the commies to the far right deciding to have a pop. I know the French love their 'direct action' and have been on the receiving end of it once or twice myself but this seems to be getting out of hand.

Any ideas what is really going on? And everyone *always* hates politicians so it can't just be that.

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Post by cronus » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:15 pm

From what I've read the authorities accidentally handed out a lot of yellow uniforms that have given the mob all that cohesive quasi-anarchist/fascist style strength which is why political symbols are banned. :?

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:19 pm

It's simple, violent yobs mixing in the legitimate protest to cause disorder and start riots...

and the politicosd only have themselves to blame, telling people to look for jobs far from their homes and then making that uneconomical
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Post by JimC » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:51 pm

Emotional lot, foreigners...

They need a jolly good talking to...
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:58 pm

a talking to with a well used switch, or maybe a very hard cane...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:31 am

Maybe we can merge the two threads Jim.
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Post by cronus » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:46 pm

In France you can get on your bike literally, to quote a loved eighties phrase here, and many did after the bombed out ruins of the war. So how is that uneconomic...?
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Post by Rum » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:31 pm

It was Norman Tebbit - arguably the twin warlock behind Thatcherism and it was said when traditional industries like steel and coal were collapsing under the watchful and gleeful eye of Thatcher's government - if you can't get a job where you live get on your bike.

If something similar is happening in France then god help them.

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Post by DRSB » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:28 pm

Macron has not spoken for a week and the country's on fire, they say.
New unpopularity record for Emmanuel Macron ...

The popularity of Emmanuel Macron decreases for the fifth time in a row: only 26% of French people have a good opinion of the Head of State (-3 points), against nearly three quarters (73%, +3) who have one. bad opinion.
Emmanuel Macron does less well than his recent predecessors (François Hollande: 29% of popularity in November 2013 / Nicolas Sarkozy: 48% in November 2008).


... against the backdrop of the crisis of "yellow vests": a movement in which the French recognize themselves but whose mode of action divides

Nearly three in four (72%) French recognize themselves in its claims but the mode of action of "yellow vests" divides the French : 52% disapprove of it, 46% approve it.
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Post by Cunt » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:45 pm

Macron is unpopular? Shocking!

I would think that someone who went through all the correct elite education channels would be fully accepted by such a smart population.

So are they still selling the 'this is a fuel tax protest' story? I wonder what story they would use if the fuel tax got scrapped and the protests continued?
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Post by DRSB » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:23 pm

They want Frexit, apparently.

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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:41 pm

DRSB wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:23 pm
They want Frexit, apparently.
They're demanding to leave the EU? :ask: I didn't see that news brief.

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Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:45 am

The news has said fuel protests...I haven't heard them describe them otherwise, though I must admit, my news consumption is quite sparse.

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Post by JimC » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:16 am

Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:45 am
The news has said fuel protests...I haven't heard them describe them otherwise, though I must admit, my news consumption is quite sparse.

I hope our French members are well, safe and out of the way of the mayhem.
Macron abandoned the fuel tax increases, but the protests continued. Why, Svarty might know. For some, it seemed to be all about the pleasure of smashing shop windows...
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Post by Cunt » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:20 am

JimC wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:16 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:45 am
The news has said fuel protests...I haven't heard them describe them otherwise, though I must admit, my news consumption is quite sparse.

I hope our French members are well, safe and out of the way of the mayhem.
Macron abandoned the fuel tax increases, but the protests continued. Why, Svarty might know. For some, it seemed to be all about the pleasure of smashing shop windows...
I think no matter what the protest was about, the mayhem can follow. It can even be politically expedient for someone to lump the mayhem and (legitimate) protest together, changing the value of each.

It's hard to know what is happening, when so much media is controlled by so few, and the false stories could be SO valuable...
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