Modern Anti-Semitism

[Rum]

One rather puzzling thing is why anti-semitism has been so persistent and embedded. Perhaps it is the historical thing about them being responsible for the death of Jesus and therefore being the object of hatred in Europe as a result. Or perhaps it is in part their determination to survive and carry on their own identity. There are many many small and not so small ethnic and stateless groups who have vanished without trace over the centuries and millennia after all. Perhaps their persistence and in some respects their success has made them visible as a target.

[DRSB]

But Jesus was a Jew! Mary was a Jew, everything happed in Israel, if it happened, that is!

[Hermit]

But Jesus was a Jew! Mary was a Jew, everything happed in Israel, if it happened, that is!

Yabbut they were Christian Jews. It's the same situation as in Belfast, where Catholic atheists are persecuted.

[DRSB]

John the Baptist and all 4 evangelists were Jews, just like 11 of the 12 apostles, and Solomon and David as well. Jews crucified him but who took him down and spread his teachings? The polemics is not between Christians and non-Christians but between just about anybody and the Jews.

[DRSB]

To the Jews Jesus is a Jew who is a self-proclaimed sect-leader, a conman claiming to be the Messiah.

[DRSB]

Interesting reading, if you have the time
Archaeology disproves bible:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/archaeol ... zvF77jS-Wk

[DRSB]

Raiffeisen and Antisemitismus, I didn't know!

The anti-Semitic positions of Raiffeisen can be summarized as follows: The Jews (optional as "Jews", "the Jew", "many Jews", "a very large part of the Jews") are usurers, they cheat, they over-benefit them they are dishonest, they avoid - in contrast to Christians - physical work, they profit from speculation. They abuse the press and interfere in Christian religious matters. If you criticize them for that, try to talk them out. They control the livestock market and the money market.

According to Raiffeisen, Jews have been striving for dominion since the Middle Ages, and their expulsion from Spain was the just punishment for their betrayal of the Visigoths and a higher providence. Had the Jews not been expelled from Spain in 1492, they would have fallen into America's immense wealth. The Jews in Spain were already the first money and world power, and they already had their Rothschild there: Don Diego de Suson. Even then a "golden international" had formed, from whose fetters Europe could no longer free itself. The Jewish organization "Alliance Israélite Universelle", founded in 1860, shows that the Jews aspire to rule. The Raiffeisen movement is threatened with danger (apart from the "red", that is, the communist international) from the "golden" international.

As far as Raiffeisen's positions are concerned with the characteristics of "the Jews", which he resolutely attributes not to their oppression experienced in Germany but to their "national character". In his own words, this sounds like this: "Yes, one can without hesitation designate the action of many Jews as a state dangerous in the true sense of the word." (Emphasis FWR) Or in his official speech (according to protocol): "From all this go forth that the Jews gained more and more influence in the big city as well as in the smallest towns and that they formed an ever more destructive power. »

Google-translated from here:

https://www.saiten.ch/raiffeisen-der-ba ... antisemit/

[Hermit]

Raiffeisen and Antisemitismus, I didn't know!

The anti-Semitic positions of Raiffeisen can be summarized as follows: The Jews (optional as "Jews", "the Jew", "many Jews", "a very large part of the Jews") are usurers, they cheat, they over-benefit them they are dishonest, they avoid - in contrast to Christians - physical work, they profit from speculation. They abuse the press and interfere in Christian religious matters. If you criticize them for that, try to talk them out. They control the livestock market and the money market.

According to Raiffeisen, Jews have been striving for dominion since the Middle Ages, and their expulsion from Spain was the just punishment for their betrayal of the Visigoths and a higher providence. Had the Jews not been expelled from Spain in 1492, they would have fallen into America's immense wealth. The Jews in Spain were already the first money and world power, and they already had their Rothschild there: Don Diego de Suson. Even then a "golden international" had formed, from whose fetters Europe could no longer free itself. The Jewish organization "Alliance Israélite Universelle", founded in 1860, shows that the Jews aspire to rule. The Raiffeisen movement is threatened with danger (apart from the "red", that is, the communist international) from the "golden" international.

As far as Raiffeisen's positions are concerned with the characteristics of "the Jews", which he resolutely attributes not to their oppression experienced in Germany but to their "national character". In his own words, this sounds like this: "Yes, one can without hesitation designate the action of many Jews as a state dangerous in the true sense of the word." (Emphasis FWR) Or in his official speech (according to protocol): "From all this go forth that the Jews gained more and more influence in the big city as well as in the smallest towns and that they formed an ever more destructive power. »

Google-translated from here:

https://www.saiten.ch/raiffeisen-der-ba ... antisemit/

The author of the article you link to may have based his take on an uncritical perusal of Nazi interpretations of Raiffeisen's views regarding Jews. The German edition of the Wikipedia offers a less condemnatory description. Courtesy of Google Translate,

In particular, after Raiffeisen had traveled to Upper Silesia in autumn 1880 on behalf of the Prussian Ministry of Agriculture in order to check the possibility of introducing loan funds, he named Jewish traders a few times in connection with usury. The reason for this was that in the area all traders, which at the time were also the only lenders for the smallholder farmers, belonged to the Jewish faith. [25]

Raiffeisen's relationship to Judaism, however, was more differentiated. He has explicitly spoken out in favor of hiring Jewish employees. [26] In particular, his attitude was never racial-ideological. He himself emphasized in his non-public memorandum on the journey to Upper Silesia:

"I never participated in the agitation and the rabble-rousing against the Jews. I will continue to do so in the future. I regard it as the only correct and at the same time most effective means for the population, if it emancipates itself from the Jews themselves, takes the concerned business, especially the money affairs, into their own hands and thus protects itself against the former ruinous influences of the Jews themselves. [27] "

In the debate at that time he then tried to justify his reservations against Jewish traders scientifically. Among other things, he relied on Alfred von Kremer and also on the translation of the Bible by Martin Luther. It corresponded to the Zeitgeist of that time to seek scientific explanations, mostly from the fields of political economy and sociology, to underpin prejudice against Jews. Overall, however, he was able to differentiate and has not seen in all Jewish traders usurers. Elsewhere, he even wrote that where Christian traders dominate the market, they are usually even worse. As a conclusion, he concluded that self-help on the loan associations clubs solve all problems best.

Michael Klein sees in Raiffeisen a representative of his time, who was not free from prejudice. He tried, however, to scientifically substantiate this and if necessary to correct. In no case one could call him a follower of the then emerging racist anti-Semitism. [25]

During the period of National Socialism, F. W. Raiffeisen was portrayed and instrumentalized as a convinced anti-Semite.

[DRSB]

I didn't know any of this.

[pErvinalia]

I didn't know I didn't know any of this.

[DRSB]

So we moved from unconscious incompetence to conscious incompetence on our way to conscious competence.

[Hermit]

Leaning on Donald Rumsfeld's ruminations one might say we've moved from unknown unknowns to known knowns, but I prefer to put it more simply: We live and learn.

[JimC]

Have we reached Post-Modern Anti-Semitism yet?

[Svartalf]

well, of course we have not, racism is vastly pre modern in nature.

[DRSB]

In our times, after all history's lessons, there shouldn't be such a thing at at all.