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I"m quite satisfied with being a Western white and would be even more satisfied if my Western white country were not sullied by so many coloureds who don't subscribe to our culture.
I don't care what colour someone is - if they move to a country they should respect that countries culture. If I wanted Sharia law in my country, I would have submitted to Islam myself.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:57 pm

that's the problem, they DON'T embrace French culture (too few of them, usually of the cultured upper economic classes, do), they want to create muslim enclaves, or worse, invade us and impose their customs and laws.
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Some people want simple answers and ones which confirm their prejudices it seems.
Diversity is a strength. You should stop being so exclusively white/western, and submit already.
By leaving my rationality and the evidence behind and becoming one of the mob baying for blood? Might be your thing but not mine.

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Post by Jason » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:05 pm

Well, I don't discriminate on the basis of skin pigmentation but I can understand the wish to preserve one's historical culture.

I mean, would it be cool to go to China and demand they accommodate your Western culture or do you think it would be more reasonable for you to adopt theirs being in their country?

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Post by Rum » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:43 pm

Child abuse isn’t about culture. That’s why this thread has become so skewed. It is about bad men (and ocassionally women) doing bad things to kids and thinking they are justified, excused and/or can get away with it. The reasons are varied and sometimes no doubt the cultural context will be a factor.

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Asia men (the majority of who are likely to be Muslim).
In Britain, is it really true that the majority of Asian men are muslim? I understood there were a lot with Indian descent who probably aren't...

(a minor point, of no major importance in the debate on this issue...)
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Post by JimC » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:19 pm

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...If you want to claim it isn't Islam, fine, but explain to me what it is that motivates the child molesters in Pakistan if it isn't Islam...
The major motivation would probably be the same as in all societies where such actions occur, and would involve power, lust, and an ego-driven feeling that the gratification of their own selfish sexual desires is vastly more important than the welfare of a child.

I was arguing earlier, in hopefully a nuanced way, that it is possible that a version of Islam that these men adhere to may allow them to rationalise their actions; certainly, the misogyny of Islamic teachings is a factor. But, I only ever saw this as a contributing factor within the twisted minds of the guilty men. It would be vastly unfair to start tarring muslim men in general with this nasty brush.
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Asia men (the majority of who are likely to be Muslim).
In Britain, is it really true that the majority of Asian men are muslim? I understood there were a lot with Indian descent who probably aren't...

(a minor point, of no major importance in the debate on this issue...)
If I get the situation correctly, most Asians in Britain are not Hindu, but Pakistani, hence muslims... and hence the derogatory 'paki' used to designates all people coming from the former British Raj.
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Post by Rum » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:20 pm

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Rum wrote:

Asia men (the majority of who are likely to be Muslim).
In Britain, is it really true that the majority of Asian men are muslim? I understood there were a lot with Indian descent who probably aren't...

(a minor point, of no major importance in the debate on this issue...)
There are just over 2 million people of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin in the Uk (2011) (the majority will be Muslim) and just over 1.5 million from India and mostly Hindu in origin.

Anecdotally I would say the Hindu population tends to be more integrated (and secularised) than the Muslims, who tend to find their religion is a rather bigger element in their identities.

As to Svarty’s point. The term ‘Paki’ has no other origin than pig ignorant racism. It is used by such people on the likes of Turks, Malaysians and even a sun tanned Italian on ocassion. Fucktards.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:32 pm

Śiva wrote:
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Well, Hermit, in the wiki article I linked to it shows 17% of students surveyed from Islamic schools, Islamic mind you, have been abused.

I think you're too quick to toe the PC line and defend Islam.
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Also noteworthy:
With regards to females, seven countries reported prevalence rates [of child sexual abuse] as being more than one fifth i.e., 37.8% in Australia, 32.2% in Costa Rica, 31% in Tanzania, 30.7% in Israel, 28.1% in Sweden, 25.3% in the US, and 24.2% in Switzerland
Islamic countries, are they?

And fuck off with the "defenders of Islam" shit already. Speaking for myself, I am no apologist for any religion, least of all Islam.
They're Islamic schools in an Islamic country FFS. If you want to claim it isn't Islam, fine, but explain to me what it is that motivates the child molesters in Pakistan if it isn't Islam.
Why can't it be the same thing (whatever that is) that motivates child molesterers in non-Islamic countries?
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Re: Huddersfield rape gang get a total of 220 years

Post by Hermit » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:55 am

Śiva wrote:
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Hermit wrote:
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Rum wrote:
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Some people want simple answers and ones which confirm their prejudices it seems.
Yep. And the post below yours makes it abundantly clear that this discussion with Śiva is like attempting to conduct a debate with a brick wall. Nothing gets through. Not the concept of confirmation bias, not an example of it and not countervailing arguments that include the relevant facts necessary for support. Think I'll just leave him at the mercy of his seemingly wilful ignorance for now. Time for a bit of shuteye anyway. Sunrise in 2.5 hours.
OK, Hermit, if you're determined to be obtuse and take this line then fine, but if you wish to substantiate your argument, if it can be called an argument, explain to me how pointing out that child molestation occurs in non-Muslim countries weakens my claim that there is something in the Pakistani culture which foments the same?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:07 am

Where do you find data from islamic countries regarding women and girls? In many islam countries their births are not even recorded only boys. The notion that women are of worth does not appear that much.
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Here we are talking about muslim women not non-muslim women who have no worth.
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Re: Huddersfield rape gang get a total of 220 years

Post by Cunt » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:32 pm

JimC wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:19 pm
Siva wrote:

...If you want to claim it isn't Islam, fine, but explain to me what it is that motivates the child molesters in Pakistan if it isn't Islam...
The major motivation would probably be the same as in all societies where such actions occur, and would involve power, lust, and an ego-driven feeling that the gratification of their own selfish sexual desires is vastly more important than the welfare of a child.

I was arguing earlier, in hopefully a nuanced way, that it is possible that a version of Islam that these men adhere to may allow them to rationalise their actions; certainly, the misogyny of Islamic teachings is a factor. But, I only ever saw this as a contributing factor within the twisted minds of the guilty men. It would be vastly unfair to start tarring muslim men in general with this nasty brush.
Their main prophet...their role model...didn't he marry a kid? Maybe good Muslims would denounce that, in the way that good Catholics denounce their church hiding child abuse.

I know that some of them condemn child marriage, but enough of them still think it's a great system, that there are signals set up in airports to help rescue their victims. Rescue them from their mothers, fathers and siblings, by the way.
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JimC wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:11 pm
Rum wrote:

Asia men (the majority of who are likely to be Muslim).
In Britain, is it really true that the majority of Asian men are muslim? I understood there were a lot with Indian descent who probably aren't...

(a minor point, of no major importance in the debate on this issue...)
There are just over 2 million people of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin in the Uk (2011) (the majority will be Muslim) and just over 1.5 million from India and mostly Hindu in origin.

Anecdotally I would say the Hindu population tends to be more integrated (and secularised) than the Muslims, who tend to find their religion is a rather bigger element in their identities.

As to Svarty’s point. The term ‘Paki’ has no other origin than pig ignorant racism. It is used by such people on the likes of Turks, Malaysians and even a sun tanned Italian on ocassion. Fucktards.
While you are virtue signalling, should you really be using 'fucktards'? Is it ok with you to use 'tard', which refers to people who are labelled, as an insult?

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he doesn't communicate

The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

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It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
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Fuck off.

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Post by Cunt » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:29 pm

Rum wrote:
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Fuck off.
You be you. I'll continue to be me.

I'll continue to respect your opinion as much as comments like this earn.

So was 'fucktard' your way of using the mentally challenged as your whipping boy? As an insult?

Or was it a term of endearment?

No need to answer, we all know you were punching down (even for you)
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Joe wrote:
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he doesn't communicate

The 'Walsh Question' 'What Is A Woman?' I'll put an answer here when someone posts one that is clear and comprehensible, by apostates to the Faith.

Update: I've been offered one!
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It is actually quite easy. A woman has at least one X chromosome.
Strong ideas don't require censorship to survive. Weak ideas cannot survive without it.

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