"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:58 am

Daniel Burnside eh, and his nine children? :fp:
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Post by JimC » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:07 am

I'm sure they'll grow up with a mature, balanced political view of the world... :tea:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:28 pm

Was Thunderf00t always a wmean-hating alt-right stooge?
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:40 am

Hard to say, but I think his videos started tending that way during the Watson elevator proposition hoo-haw and subsequent fallout about creepy behavior at atheist/freethought/skepticism conferences. Then when Gamergate became a thing, he well all out. He's made literally dozens of videos featuring his scorn for Anita Sarkeesian

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 am

I remember his evisceration of creationists quite fondly from the olden days, but hadn't encountered him on YouTube for many years (I don't bother with that new atheist m'larky these days). But I caught sight of one of his screeds against Sarkeesian in another vid, and it sounded like he'd gone full Crowder!
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:34 am

The racist known as Tommy Robinson gets a 9 month, all expenses holiday at Her Majesties pleasure.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:59 pm

Poor fella. He's just trying to have a nice conversation about his views. Why do people hate his freedum?
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 am
I remember his evisceration of creationists quite fondly from the olden days, but hadn't encountered him on YouTube for many years (I don't bother with that new atheist m'larky these days). But I caught sight of one of his screeds against Sarkeesian in another vid, and it sounded like he'd gone full Crowder!
By 'full Crowder' do you mean popular? Or do you simply mean that you would dismiss his opinions without evaluating them?

I think Sarkeesian was an idiot, but then again, I listened to her own words to come to that conclusion...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 am
I remember his evisceration of creationists quite fondly from the olden days, but hadn't encountered him on YouTube for many years (I don't bother with that new atheist m'larky these days). But I caught sight of one of his screeds against Sarkeesian in another vid, and it sounded like he'd gone full Crowder!
By 'full Crowder' do you mean popular?
No, I mean Alt-Right bigot and MRA teat-feeder.
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Or do you simply mean that you would dismiss his opinions without evaluating them?
After a point, yes. If you think one of his opinions has merit and is relevant to this thread I'd be happy to entertain it for you.
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I think Sarkeesian was an idiot, but then again, I listened to her own words to come to that conclusion...
And my evaluation of Crowder's expressed views leads me to conclude that he's a disingenuous fraud who sells Alt-Right validation for profit.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
By 'full Crowder' do you mean popular?
No, I mean Alt-Right bigot and MRA teat-feeder.
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Try to stay on topic...do you disagree with his opinion on Sarkeesian? Which element of it was wrong? You are the one who has a problem with his side of it, presumably.
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
Or do you simply mean that you would dismiss his opinions without evaluating them?
After a point, yes. If you think one of his opinions has merit and is relevant to this thread I'd be happy to entertain it for you.
You were the one suggesting he said something incorrect about Sarkeesian. Why not expand on it, rather than trying to shift the focus to me.
Brian Peacock wrote:
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Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
I think Sarkeesian was an idiot, but then again, I listened to her own words to come to that conclusion...
And my evaluation of Crowder's expressed views leads me to conclude that he's a disingenuous fraud who sells Alt-Right validation for profit.
I agree that he sells a character, but 'alt' right? How is he 'alt' right? I thought he was just regular right...He seems to be a puppet, dancing before the camera and saying things in exchange for money.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:42 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
By 'full Crowder' do you mean popular?
No, I mean Alt-Right bigot and MRA teat-feeder.
Try to stay on topic...do you disagree with his opinion on Sarkeesian?
That's a classic Cunt: changing the subject after the question has been answered. Read it again. You asked a question. I answered it. Now you say that I'm dodging the 'real' question, which is the one you didn't even ask. This is bad arguing as well as bad faith.
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:42 pm
Which element of it was wrong? You are the one who has a problem with his side of it, presumably.
Which element of what opinions are you referring too? Crowder ranges far and wide across the right-side of politics, but as I said in the previous post, if you think one of his opinions has merit and is relevant to this thread then feel free to bring it up.
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:42 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
Or do you simply mean that you would dismiss his opinions without evaluating them?
After a point, yes. If you think one of his opinions has merit and is relevant to this thread I'd be happy to entertain it for you.
You were the one suggesting he said something incorrect about Sarkeesian. Why not expand on it, rather than trying to shift the focus to me.
At some point you'll notice that just having a discussion or conversation with someone doesn't mean they're interested in you personally. Until then... :roll:

If you're familiar with Crowder, and I assume you are, then you'll be familiar with his various opinions on Sarkeesian, feminism, and gender equality etc. On the whole I don't think Crowder makes reasonable points about or counter arguments to the snippets of Sarkeesian he deals in, not least because he -- along with the rest of the Man-o-sphere -- starts by misrepresenting what she says and the context in which she says it.

Now, regardless of what I just said there the post that got your knickers in a twist actually said nothing about Crowder's opinions specifically or generally, but to be fair I did compare Thunderf00t to Crowder directly ("he's gone full Crowder") precisely because Crowder's politics and opinions are so clearcut and widely understood. Just sayin' :tea:
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:42 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
I think Sarkeesian was an idiot, but then again, I listened to her own words to come to that conclusion...
And my evaluation of Crowder's expressed views leads me to conclude that he's a disingenuous fraud who sells Alt-Right validation for profit.
I agree that he sells a character, but 'alt' right? How is he 'alt' right? I thought he was just regular right...He seems to be a puppet, dancing before the camera and saying things in exchange for money.

Just like Cronkite, Streisand and Yiannopolous.
Really? You're going to do the putting the 'alt' of Alt-Right in scare quotes as if it isn't a thing thing?

When you offer a political platform and a retail opportunity to white-supremacists, white-nationalist, Holocaust denying conspiracy theorists, neo-Nazis and racists like McInnes, Southern, Yiannopolous, Benjamin, and Spencer etc etc, and sit around chatting with them about how great their books and videos and political ideas are without questioning, challenging or disavowing their operating assumptions then it's entirely reasonable to conclude that you're an Alt-Right - at the very least.

However, if he's just a "puppet, dancing before the camera and saying things in exchange for money" then one might wonder who his puppet masters really are, eh? And then perhaps ask if there's really any functional difference between being a real, copper-bottomed Alt-Right and racist and dancing to the tune of Alt-Rights and racists for personal gain?
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:49 pm

But I caught sight of one of his screeds against Sarkeesian in another vid, and it sounded like he'd gone full Crowder!
By 'full Crowder' do you mean popular? Or do you simply mean that you would dismiss his opinions without evaluating them?

I think Sarkeesian was an idiot, but then again, I listened to her own words to come to that conclusion...
You mentioned you caught one of T-f00ts 'screeds' against Sarkeesian. Did you disagree with something? Or by 'full Crowder' did you mean popular and mainly correct in its claims?

Try to focus on what you said, not no broadcasting your disdain for Crowder, or me.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:51 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 pm
That's a classic Cunt: changing the subject after the question has been answered. Read it again. You asked a question. I answered it. Now you say that I'm dodging the 'real' question, which is the one you didn't even ask. This is bad arguing as well as bad faith.
But YOU said that about Thunderf00t's 'screed', so dance back on to the topic. Or accuse me of something. I already know how deep your understanding goes, by the clumsy way you attack these particular media figures.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:55 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:51 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:46 pm
That's a classic Cunt: changing the subject after the question has been answered. Read it again. You asked a question. I answered it. Now you say that I'm dodging the 'real' question, which is the one you didn't even ask. This is bad arguing as well as bad faith.
But YOU said that about Thunderf00t's 'screed', so dance back on to the topic. Or accuse me of something. I already know how deep your understanding goes, by the clumsy way you attack these particular media figures.
Meh. Sure, I criticise MRAs, Alt-Righties, racists, and fascists for their ideals and their actions. So what? The assumption that one criticises right-wingers only because one doesn't understand them properly is a plain, self-serving falsehood - it doesn't rebuff or challenge those criticisms as much as it provides emotional comfort to the accuser. Essentially such a charge it's no different to a religionist trying to ring-fence their ideas and actions by insisting that only those who have a 'proper' (authorised) understanding of dogma and doctrine etc are qualified to criticise their ideology, while knowing full well that anyone with that kind of 'proper' understanding wouldn't be criticising them in the first place. Ultimately, it's just a kind of special pleading.
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Post by Cunt » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:24 am

You can't back up what you said about T-f00t's 'screed'.

I'm not surprised. You should ask Forty Two to help you understand...oh wait...
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