Republicans: continued

[Brian Peacock]

That's one way to avoid the question I guess.

[Cunt]

That's one way to avoid the question I guess.

What question?

Be a bit clearer, and maybe you can get a clearer answer.

[JimC]

What about political ideas that advocate racial purity, demand the exclusion or eradication of degenerate races and dissenting viewpoints, and propose the use of violence to achieve those ends? Is that the kind of political speech that should be given a platform, or even appeased?

Are you proposing that?

Or is someone else?

Political ideas are almost always forbidden in some countries with high levels of fascism. Almost always allowed in the freest countries. Between the two there is a lot of grey...but maybe you are talking about a specific group.

So, you are pretending that you don't know about the existence of groups that aggressively propose, often in public marches, exactly the political ideas that Brian mentioned. They exist, they openly proclaim those racist, violent views, they are growing in some parts of the world, and they need to be opposed. Exactly how they should be opposed is worthy of discussion and argument, but not the fact that they are vile, dangerous and require opposition of some sort.

Unless you are a fascist sympathiser, of course...

[Cunt]

What about political ideas that advocate racial purity, demand the exclusion or eradication of degenerate races and dissenting viewpoints, and propose the use of violence to achieve those ends? Is that the kind of political speech that should be given a platform, or even appeased?

Are you proposing that?

Or is someone else?

Political ideas are almost always forbidden in some countries with high levels of fascism. Almost always allowed in the freest countries. Between the two there is a lot of grey...but maybe you are talking about a specific group.

So, you are pretending that you don't know about the existence of groups that aggressively propose, often in public marches, exactly the political ideas that Brian mentioned.

Nope. I'm saying what I'm saying.

If you have to read into it, or ascribe motive to me that I don't agree with, then you might be a deluded old man...

They exist, they openly proclaim those racist, violent views, they are growing in some parts of the world, and they need to be opposed.

Sure. Do you think Daryl Davis is doing more for that cause? Or Al Sharpton?

Exactly how they should be opposed is worthy of discussion and argument, but not the fact that they are vile, dangerous and require opposition of some sort.

Of course they do.

Unless you are a fascist sympathiser, of course...

Wow, that's classy of you, JimC. I bet you are proud to sneak that personal attack in without consequence.

[JimC]

I merely asked the question...

[Seabass]

Surprise! According to two thousand political scientists, the Republican party is illiberal, anti-democratic, and racist, and has more in common with political parties in the third world and Eastern bloc countries than those in the developed world.

How do Trump’s Republicans compare to the rest of the world’s political parties?

On conventional left-right measurements, there’s not much distinguishing America’s Republican party from mainstream conservative movements in Europe. In fact, when it comes to economic left and right, there are governing parties on the right in Europe who are more “extreme”.

On attitudes towards ethnic minorities and respect for liberal democratic values, however, it’s a different story.

The Global Party Survey (GPS), a project authored by Harvard University’s Pippa Norris, has sought to allow international comparisons between political parties on a variety of issues by surveying almost 2,000 academic experts on their relative positions on various spectrums. Those include the social and economic views of those parties, as well as whether they are populist or pluralistic in outlook.

The survey’s findings suggest America’s Republican Party remains “mainstream” in many respects (on a scale of conventional liberalism-conservatism, the GOP sits comfortably near Britain’s Tories and the French Republicans) - but not when it comes to its defending the rights of ethnic minorities and standing up for liberal principles.

On those issues it is far more extreme than Europe’s centre-right governing parties and sits closer to the likes of Austria’s Freedom Party, Turkey’s Justice and Development Party, and India’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) - the governing movement often accused of inciting hatred against the country’s Muslim minority.

more: https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2020 ... al-parties

[JimC]

Clearly fake news, and the graph was probably made by a nasty woman!

[Brian Peacock]

I merely asked the question...

Have you noticed how some people treat a question like an accusation - ones both given and received?

[Joe]

If you ask a question when you're loaded, is it a loaded question?

[JimC]

I merely asked the question...

Have you noticed how some people treat a question like an accusation - ones both given and received?

I think their actions are questionable...

[JimC]

If you ask a question when you're loaded, is it a loaded question?

I'm permanently loaded...

[Brian Peacock]

Well as long as you don't have a hair trigger...

[Joe]

As long as he's not locked and loaded.

[pErvinalia]

Having a trigger made of hair sounds like a silly idea.

[Seabass]