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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:56 pm

That's one way to avoid the question I guess.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:06 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:56 pm
That's one way to avoid the question I guess.
What question?

Be a bit clearer, and maybe you can get a clearer answer.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:19 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:55 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:48 pm
What about political ideas that advocate racial purity, demand the exclusion or eradication of degenerate races and dissenting viewpoints, and propose the use of violence to achieve those ends? Is that the kind of political speech that should be given a platform, or even appeased?
Are you proposing that?

Or is someone else?

Political ideas are almost always forbidden in some countries with high levels of fascism. Almost always allowed in the freest countries. Between the two there is a lot of grey...but maybe you are talking about a specific group.
So, you are pretending that you don't know about the existence of groups that aggressively propose, often in public marches, exactly the political ideas that Brian mentioned. They exist, they openly proclaim those racist, violent views, they are growing in some parts of the world, and they need to be opposed. Exactly how they should be opposed is worthy of discussion and argument, but not the fact that they are vile, dangerous and require opposition of some sort.

Unless you are a fascist sympathiser, of course...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:28 pm

JimC wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:19 pm
Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:55 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:48 pm
What about political ideas that advocate racial purity, demand the exclusion or eradication of degenerate races and dissenting viewpoints, and propose the use of violence to achieve those ends? Is that the kind of political speech that should be given a platform, or even appeased?
Are you proposing that?

Or is someone else?

Political ideas are almost always forbidden in some countries with high levels of fascism. Almost always allowed in the freest countries. Between the two there is a lot of grey...but maybe you are talking about a specific group.
So, you are pretending that you don't know about the existence of groups that aggressively propose, often in public marches, exactly the political ideas that Brian mentioned.
Nope. I'm saying what I'm saying.

If you have to read into it, or ascribe motive to me that I don't agree with, then you might be a deluded old man...
They exist, they openly proclaim those racist, violent views, they are growing in some parts of the world, and they need to be opposed.
Sure. Do you think Daryl Davis is doing more for that cause? Or Al Sharpton?
Exactly how they should be opposed is worthy of discussion and argument, but not the fact that they are vile, dangerous and require opposition of some sort.
Of course they do.

Unless you are a fascist sympathiser, of course...
Wow, that's classy of you, JimC. I bet you are proud to sneak that personal attack in without consequence.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:44 pm

I merely asked the question... :tea:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Seabass » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:54 pm

Surprise! According to two thousand political scientists, the Republican party is illiberal, anti-democratic, and racist, and has more in common with political parties in the third world and Eastern bloc countries than those in the developed world.

How do Trump’s Republicans compare to the rest of the world’s political parties?

On conventional left-right measurements, there’s not much distinguishing America’s Republican party from mainstream conservative movements in Europe. In fact, when it comes to economic left and right, there are governing parties on the right in Europe who are more “extreme”.

On attitudes towards ethnic minorities and respect for liberal democratic values, however, it’s a different story.

The Global Party Survey (GPS), a project authored by Harvard University’s Pippa Norris, has sought to allow international comparisons between political parties on a variety of issues by surveying almost 2,000 academic experts on their relative positions on various spectrums. Those include the social and economic views of those parties, as well as whether they are populist or pluralistic in outlook.

The survey’s findings suggest America’s Republican Party remains “mainstream” in many respects (on a scale of conventional liberalism-conservatism, the GOP sits comfortably near Britain’s Tories and the French Republicans) - but not when it comes to its defending the rights of ethnic minorities and standing up for liberal principles.

On those issues it is far more extreme than Europe’s centre-right governing parties and sits closer to the likes of Austria’s Freedom Party, Turkey’s Justice and Development Party, and India’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) - the governing movement often accused of inciting hatred against the country’s Muslim minority.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:12 pm

Clearly fake news, and the graph was probably made by a nasty woman! :nono:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:54 am

JimC wrote:I merely asked the question... :tea:
Have you noticed how some people treat a question like an accusation - ones both given and received?
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Joe » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:03 am

If you ask a question when you're loaded, is it a loaded question?
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:54 am
JimC wrote:I merely asked the question... :tea:
Have you noticed how some people treat a question like an accusation - ones both given and received?
I think their actions are questionable... :tea:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:14 am

Joe wrote:
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If you ask a question when you're loaded, is it a loaded question?
I'm permanently loaded...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:18 am

Well as long as you don't have a hair trigger... :tea:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Joe » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:21 pm

As long as he's not locked and loaded. :wumbo:
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:53 pm

Having a trigger made of hair sounds like a silly idea.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Seabass » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:12 pm

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." —From the OSS’s psychological profile of Adolf Hitler

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