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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:39 pm

The 2 Trump judges were put in to roll back government powers back to 1929
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:29 pm

The only group that will gain from the Trump era is the badly named Frderalist society
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society
The federal part of their thinking only refers to courts. They want conservative judges to have the power to steer us to a libertarian state with "freedoms" not limited by Congress. Federal agencies and control should disappear.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:06 am

The Trump Republican party voted solidly against renewing the Yoting Rights Act, which has received bipartisan support since it first became law in 1965. In 2006, when it was last renewed, the vote was 390 members in favor, 33 (all Republicans) against.

'Democrats’ voting rights legislation doomed after partisan House vote'
The Democrats’ campaign to regain control of the House in 2018 included a pledge to restore a key provision of the Voting Rights Act. But a vote on Friday signals their legislation is headed nowhere.

Their bill passed along party lines, 228-187, with only one Republican, Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, voting “yes.” It was the first time that a rewrite or reauthorization of the original Voting Rights Act of 1965 has had a partisan vote.

The White House issued a veto threat of the Democrats’ Voting Rights Advancement Act, which would restore a provision requiring certain states to get federal government permission before changing local election laws.

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“If Democrats want an issue, they can continue down this path. If they want a law, they know my number. My record speaks for itself,” said Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis.

Sensenbrenner was the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee in 2006, the last time Congress passed a reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, 390-33. The Senate passed the same bill 98-0 and Republican President George W. Bush signed it into law.

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When the original Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965, it required certain states with histories of voter discrimination and disenfranchisement to be “precleared” before changing voting laws. A formula was established to determine which states would be subject to this requirement.

In 2013, the U.S. Supreme Court determined the formula was out of date for determining which states ought to be penalized and threw it out, challenging Congress to come up with a new one

Sensenbrenner worked with Democrats in the Republican-controlled House to come up with bipartisan compromises in the years following that court ruling, but GOP leaders never allowed a vote. Many congressional Republicans didn’t want to restore the preclearance formula, satisfied their states would no longer be punished for Jim Crow-era offenses.

On Friday, Republicans accused the Voting Rights Advancement Act of doing more than just reinstating the preclearance formula, contending the bill constituted broad federal overreach of states’ rights.

GOP lawmakers also complained the bill prohibited states from implementing voter ID laws and would require states to get permission before putting in place very specific election procedures that have a history of being used for discriminatory practices — even if the procedures weren’t intended to be discriminatory.

Democrats said the need for reforms on top of a new preclearance formula were critical, arguing that many of the 14 states and jurisdictions previously subject to preclearance have taken advantage of their freedom from federal oversight to pass new laws that suppress voter access at the polls.

Fudge said her review also found that voter disenfranchisement was now rampant in states that weren’t originally under the preclearance formula, for instance Ohio and North Dakota.

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Post by Tero » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:29 am

A former Republican Congress member explains what happened to his party
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... avid-jolly
David Jolly
I can’t tell you how many Republican members of Congress have told me, “I’m just trying to keep my head down and not get noticed.” They see all the excitement stirred up by people like Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes but at least half the caucus wants to stay the hell out of the media. They’re not looking to make a name through this, they’re looking to survive this.

I struggle with whether some of their behaviors are an intentional decision on their part to engage in either misdirection, or to overlook the facts because they have a fealty to the president or because they want to put a stake in the ground in right-wing media or because it just works in their districts. Or are some of them just duped into it by following the leader?

I honestly don’t know. It’s probably a mix of all of the above.
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I think this is what the party is. I don’t think we will see a reversal the day Trump leaves office. I’m curious who follows Trump because the politics aren’t going to change so dramatically. I don’t think it’s Mike Pence’s party when Trump’s gone. Anyone who wants to win in this party will have to appease the Trumpist base one way or the other.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Woodbutcher » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:14 am

It'll be Jim Jordan after Trump.
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Post by Tero » Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:20 pm

I would not try to guess who it is. If Trump goes, Nunes goes.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:41 pm

Woodbutcher wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:14 am
It'll be Jim Jordan after Trump.
Certainly somebody will need to step up to make sure the US stays the course until Don Jr. is ready to take the reins. There are other great possibilities though--Matt Gaetz and Louie Gohmert come to mind but we shouldn't discount people like Steve King and Glenn Beck, not to mention Rudy Giuliani.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:37 pm

The Russia/Trump thread is no more, and this isn't specific to Putin, otherwise I'd put it there. Da, priyatel, Mother Russia is on your side!

'Pentagon Concerned Russia Cultivating Sympathy Among US Troops'
Russian efforts to weaken the West through a relentless campaign of information warfare may be starting to pay off, cracking a key bastion of the U.S. line of defense: the military.

While most Americans still see Moscow as a key U.S. adversary, new polling suggests that view is changing, most notably among the households of military members.

The second annual Reagan National Defense Survey, completed in late October, found nearly half of armed services households questioned, 46%, said they viewed Russia as ally.

Overall, the survey found 28% of Americans identified Russia as an ally, up from 19% the previous year.

Generally, the pollsters found the positive views of Russia seemed to be “predominantly driven by Republicans who have responded to positive cues from [U.S.] President [Donald] Trump about Russia,” according to an executive summary accompanying the results.

While a majority, 71% of all Americans and 53% of military households, still views Russia as an enemy, the spike in pro-Russian sentiment has defense officials concerned.

“There is an effort, on the part of Russia, to flood the media with disinformation to sow doubt and confusion,” Defense Department spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Carla Gleason told VOA.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:30 pm

Rural NY state people divided, attacking each other on social media.
Indeed, social media has played a major role in intensifying Stefanik’s own 2020 race. Even before the impeachment hearing, she had begun peppering her campaign statements with Trump-inspired insults, such as “Taxin’ Tedra.” She earned her own after the impeachment hearings, in the form of the hashtag #TrashyStefanik, coined by George Conway when he solicited donations for Cobb last month on Twitter and called Stefanik “lying trash.” Cobb, in her formal campaign kickoff November 19, denounced the use of that nickname, but plenty of others were happy to continue making it trend, online and off.

Jack McGuire, a professor of political science at SUNY Potsdam, said he hasn’t seen that level of name-calling in local politics in his nearly 15 years living there. “Unfortunately, I think the public is becoming inured to Trumpian/Stefanik style of political behaviors that are uncommon in the 21st,” he added, referring to the district.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ict-084853

But if you are riding Trump, it will not work past the 2020 election. I think we will see a little return to normal "penny pinching" Republicans then.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:14 pm

The 'normal "penny pinching" Republicans' have been steadily pushed out of the party leadership though. Newt Gingrich's posse of malevolent zealots was reinforced by the Tea Party ideologues, and anybody who doesn't kowtow to their no-compromise True American™ way of thinking is derided as a RINO. They found in Trump a splendid figurehead for their toxic politics, but they'll still be the main element of the Republican Party when he exits stage right.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Seabass » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:38 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:14 pm
The 'normal "penny pinching" Republicans' have been steadily pushed out of the party leadership though. Newt Gingrich's posse of malevolent zealots was reinforced by the Tea Party ideologues, and anybody who doesn't kowtow to their no-compromise True American™ way of thinking is derided as a RINO. They found in Trump a splendid figurehead for their toxic politics, but they'll still be the main element of the Republican Party when he exits stage right.
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It's not really the Trump cult. It's the Fox News/Rush LImbaugh/Breitbart/christofascist/white nationalist cult. Trump was just the most openly hateful and bigoted and anti-science one of the options that were available, so they chose him.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Joe » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:16 pm

Seabass wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:38 pm
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:14 pm
The 'normal "penny pinching" Republicans' have been steadily pushed out of the party leadership though. Newt Gingrich's posse of malevolent zealots was reinforced by the Tea Party ideologues, and anybody who doesn't kowtow to their no-compromise True American™ way of thinking is derided as a RINO. They found in Trump a splendid figurehead for their toxic politics, but they'll still be the main element of the Republican Party when he exits stage right.
:this:

It's not really the Trump cult. It's the Fox News/Rush LImbaugh/Breitbart/christofascist/white nationalist cult. Trump was just the most openly hateful and bigoted and anti-science one of the options that were available, so they chose him.
I think it was Bill Maher who pointed out that the GOP has become the party of assholes. With Trump, they finally got one of their own in the White House.
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