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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:53 pm

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Racism reflects upon the racist and tells those of us with a bit of sensitivity. a liberal and tolerant outlook that they are cunts. One can then treat them with that in mind. Simples.
Are Islamic beliefs racist?
Not as a rule. Islam is pretty inclusive from what I have read and seen. They'll take anyone as long as they submit to their god in utter subjugation.

But in any case it is people who are racist.
When a muslim practices 'taqiyya', are they racist?

What about treating non-believers differently (formally in tax schemes, but informally in many ways) is THAT racist?

How about their various calls for certain...handling of infidels? Racist?

Racism is FAR from the most dangerous horseshit out there, but it SURE is popular, for wealthy white-guilt types to look down their noses at them.

Racism, especially as it is used these days, is just slightly less important than is child genital mutilation (practiced by many religiots)
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:43 pm

Cunt wrote:

When a muslim practices 'taqiyya', are they racist?

What about treating non-believers differently (formally in tax schemes, but informally in many ways) is THAT racist?

How about their various calls for certain...handling of infidels? Racist?
The answer, to anyone with normal comprehension levels, is clearly no. There are devout muslims of all races, who are fully accepted, as long as they are devout.

Their attitudes to those who are not devout muslims are of course appalling, but that has nothing to do with racism as such.
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:08 am

there used to be a time when islam was not inclusive at all... in the early period of the Muslim conquest of Spain, the ruling muslim aristocracy actually discouraged the conversion of commoners, as it would exempt them from the dhimmi tax... And islam demands abject and utter submission, whether you're an muslim aristocrat or a commoner of whatever faith.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:49 am

Yep, it's interesting that Christians and Muslims both claim to have been progressives. I guess with Islam developing as it did between two old, religious, and long warring empires it's possible that it was an improvement for some caught in the middle. :dunno:

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Post by Cunt » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:35 am

JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:43 pm
Cunt wrote:

When a muslim practices 'taqiyya', are they racist?

What about treating non-believers differently (formally in tax schemes, but informally in many ways) is THAT racist?

How about their various calls for certain...handling of infidels? Racist?
The answer, to anyone with normal comprehension levels, is clearly no. There are devout muslims of all races, who are fully accepted, as long as they are devout.

Their attitudes to those who are not devout muslims are of course appalling, but that has nothing to do with racism as such.
Funny how one can use Tommy Robinson, in a video, speaking out against muslims as 'evidence of racism', because muslims MUST be brown people, but when those same muslims have special rules about lying to non-muslims, or taxing them for being non-muslim, or such, that MUST not be because of race.

I see it as hating large groups of people, for various stupid reasons. Bigotry is bigotry, whether espoused by people who are white, brown or british.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:04 am

Despite the fact that it's very likely Kemp has not a shred of evidence (he'd say so otherwise, right?) I think that he really believes this. I could certainly be wrong, in which case he's just a completely corrupt slimeball.

'Hacking allegation shows peril of Georgia Republican's twin election roles'
The Republican candidate in Georgia’s governor’s race, who also oversees the state’s elections, accused Democrats on Sunday of trying to hack voter registration systems, a move analysts said highlighted the inherent conflict between his twin roles.

The contest between Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp and Democrat Stacey Abrams, who is vying to become the United States’ first black female governor, had already become a flashpoint for allegations of voter suppression.

Kemp drew more national attention to the contest early on Sunday with a statement making the hacking allegation but offering no supporting evidence. State Democratic Party officials quickly denied the charge.

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Kemp’s charge on Sunday appeared to result from a report made to his office and the FBI on Saturday by a Georgia businessman with an expertise in software, according to David Cross, a lawyer representing several Georgia voters who have sued the state over its decision not to use paper ballots.

“We expected the secretary of state would take that seriously and would take whatever remedial actions needed to be taken, and we were surprised to see that the response was to accuse the Democrats of hacking,” Cross told reporters on Sunday.

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Kemp’s latest allegations were met with skepticism from cyber security experts, who noted that identifying who is behind a particular hack was time-consuming and extremely difficult.

“Does the Georgia Secretary of State have the forensics capability and expertise necessary to investigate their own potential breach?” Alex Stamos, Facebook’s former security chief, asked on Twitter.

Stamos said he believed FBI and Justice Department specialists would be better positioned to investigate any hack.

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Post by Seabass » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 am

I'm sure it's legit. I've been told by a very reliable and loquacious source that there is no voter suppression in America.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:43 am

More in the wheelhouse of the Christian right of the Republican party:

'Washington state lawmaker Matt Shea defends advocacy for ‘Holy Army’ as Spokane sheriff refers his writings to FBI'
Washington state Rep. Matt Shea acknowledged Wednesday he had distributed a four-page manifesto titled “Biblical Basis for War,” which describes the Christian God as a “warrior,” details the composition and strategies of a “Holy Army” and condemns abortion and same-sex marriage.

The document is organized in 14 sections with multiple tiers of bullet points and a smattering of biblical citations. Under one heading, “Rules of War,” it makes a chilling prescription for enemies who flout “biblical law.”

After the document was leaked online Tuesday, the Spokane Valley Republican insisted he was not promoting violence and that the message had been taken out of context.

“First of all, it was a summary of a series of sermons on biblical war in the Old Testament as part of a larger discussion on the history of warfare,” Shea said in a Facebook Live video on Wednesday. “This document, in and of itself, was not a secret. I’ve actually talked about portions of this document publicly.”

In the video, Shea also complains about a recently published Rolling Stone profile that characterizes him as an extremist, he argues that the United States is “a Christian nation” and he asserts that his detractors are part of a so-called “counter state” made up of “Marxists” and “Islamists.” He dismisses criticism as nothing more than “smears and slander and innuendo and implication.”

He also delves into the philosophy known as “just war theory,” which has been endorsed by many mainstream Christians.

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“The document Mr. Shea wrote is not a Sunday school project or an academic study,” Spokane County Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich wrote in an email. “It is a ‘how to’ manual consistent with the ideology and operating philosophy of the Christian Identity/Aryan Nations movement and the Redoubt movement of the 1990s.”

Knezovich said he had obtained the document and other materials on a flash drive about six weeks ago.

“I gave it straight to the FBI,” he said.

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“The goal of these groups has always been to create a white homeland consisting of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Oregon and Washington,” Knezovich wrote. “The ideas presented in the (biblical war) document are how these groups intend to seize control, by force, should there be a governmental collapse or civil war.”
Perhaps the Seattle Times site is geoblocked. If so, there's the Rolling Stone profile linked above, as well as a TPM article on this Dominionist jerk. I can't think of any context in which advocating the following can be considered part of an innocent sermon on 'biblical war in the Old Testament.'
Make an offer of Peace before declaring war.
i. Not a negotiation or compromise of righteousness.
ii. Must surrender on terms of justice and righteousness:
1. Stop all abortions;
2. No same-sex marriage;
3. No idolatry or occultism;
4. No communism; and
5. Must obey Biblical law.
iii. If they yield –must pay share of work or taxes.
iv. If they do not yield –kill all males

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:51 am

Seabass wrote:
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I'm sure it's legit. I've been told by a very reliable and loquacious source that there is no voter suppression in America.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:47 am

I'm starting to abandon the 'blinded by partisan fervor' explanation for Kemp's accusation, and am coming around to the 'corrupt slimeball' position.

'Kemp’s Aggressive Gambit to Distract from Election Security Crisis'
When Georgia Democrats were alerted to what they believe to be major vulnerabilities in the state’s voter registration system Saturday, they contacted computer security experts who verified the problems. They then notified Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s lawyers and national intelligence officials in the hope of getting the problems fixed.

Instead of addressing the security issues, Kemp’s office put out a statement Sunday saying he had opened an investigation that targets the Democrats for hacking.
Exclusive: Georgia’s Voter Registration System like "Open Bank Safe Door"'
What Kemp’s office is doing is disingenuous, Bruce Brown, lawyer for the nonprofit Coalition for Good Governance asserted.

Brown noted that, at 7:03 PM last night [Saturday, November 3], he had emailed John Salter and Roy Barnes, former Governor of Georgia, in their capacities as counsel to Secretary of State Kemp, to notify them of the serious potential cyber vulnerability in the registration files that had been discovered without any hacking at all.

Brown also told Kemp’s lawyers that the information had already been forwarded to national intelligence officials.

The Coalition for Good Governance, an election security advocacy group, has sued Georgia multiple times over the vulnerability of its systems.

“We have seen, unfortunately, that we were too correct in our allegations and Judge [Amy] Totenberg was too prescient in her concerns about the system,” Brown said. “That Kemp would turn this around and blame other people for his failures is reflective of his complete failure as Secretary of State.”

Judge Totenberg had recently ruled that there was not enough time for Georgia to switch to paper ballots — widely seen as a more secure voting method — but expressed grave concerns over the security of the state’s elections.

“What is particularly outrageous about this, is that I gave this information in confidence to Kemp’s lawyers so that something could be done about it without exposing the vulnerability to the public,” Brown told WhoWhatWhy. “Putting his own political agenda over the security of the election, Kemp is ignoring his responsibility to the people of Georgia.”

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:55 am

Lindsey Graham continues to vie lie for a position in the Trump administration.
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Post by Tero » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:42 pm

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:49 pm

What a coward. She should have stood on her hind legs a lied straight into the camera like so many other Republicans have. It's the right thing to do!

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:10 pm

On that 'both sides are to blame' thing:
Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they’re making it impossible for Congress to work the way it’s supposed to.

Over the past few decades, both Democrats and Republicans in Congress have moved away from the center. But the Republican Party has moved towards the extreme much more quickly -- a trend that political scientists’ call “asymmetrical polarization.”

That asymmetry poses a major obstacle in American politics. As Republicans have become more ideological, they’ve also become less willing to work with Democrats: filibustering Democratic legislation, refusing to consider Democratic appointees, and even shutting down the government in order to force Democrats to give in to their demands.

Democrats have responded in turn, becoming more obstructionist as Republican demands become more extreme.

And that’s made it really easy for media outlets to blame “both sides” for political gridlock. As political scientists Thomas Mann and Norm Ornstein explain in their book “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks,” journalists feel a pressure to remain neutral when covering big political fights. So politics coverage has been dominated by the myth that both parties are equally to blame for the gridlock in DC.

But they’re not. And the only way to stop Republicans in Congress from continuing their drift towards the extreme is to be brutally honest about who’s responsible for breaking our politics.
To me it seems unlikely that there's any way to stop the Republican party from its march to the right. Right wing talk radio and Fox News have been dripping venom in the ears of Republican voters for decades now, and online sources like Breitbart, Daily Caller, etc. have only added to that. Those voters can see the changes happening in the US (demographics and dominant culture), and with their reaction of angst and anger intensified by the bile they imbibe from right wing media, they're more willing to vote for (previously) Tea Party and now Trumpist ideological goons in primary elections, driving out Republican politicians that don't conform to the trend. Anyway, here's the video that goes with the text above, for what it's worth:


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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:53 am

God is looking out for the US; even though the violent mob known as the Democratic Party has taken control of the House of Representatives, fine upstanding senators like Republican Marsha Blackburn have been elected, and the US Senate remains in the hand of God's Own Party. 'Thoughts and prayers!'

'Marsha Blackburn’s Gut Reaction to Thousand Oaks Shooting: "Protect the 2nd Amendment"'
Senator-elect Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) made her priorities abundantly clear on Thursday morning when a Fox News anchor asked her for a reaction to the deadly mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

Asked by anchor Sandra Smith what America as a country can do to stop incidents like this one, the first thing Blackburn said was: “What we do is say, how do we make certain that we protect the Second Amendment and protect our citizens.”

The Tennessee Republican went on to say that “mental-health issues need to be addressed” before bringing up the issue of gun access specifically.

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“No one wants an individual who is a danger to themselves or others to have a firearm,” Blackburn added. “And what you do want is to make sure they are receiving the help—I mean, this is just absolutely heartbreaking.” From there, Blackburn offered her “thoughts and prayers” to the parents and victims.

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