"The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

[JimC]

I was telling you he was establishment all along!

Sorry he is not establishment. He is new money. Establishment does not like new money. It is cheap and brassy.

But if it promises them tax breaks, they can live with it...

[Scot Dutchy]

I was telling you he was establishment all along!

Sorry he is not establishment. He is new money. Establishment does not like new money. It is cheap and brassy.

But if it promises them tax breaks, they can live with it...

He is trying to serve them in order to get some acknowledgement of his existence and promote his position into the establishment.

[pErvinalia]

He's just serving himself and his mates.

[DRSB]

I was telling you he was establishment all along!

Sorry he is not establishment. He is new money. Establishment does not like new money. It is cheap and brassy.

Where did his father's money come from?

[pErvinalia]

The mafia?

[Scot Dutchy]

I was telling you he was establishment all along!

Sorry he is not establishment. He is new money. Establishment does not like new money. It is cheap and brassy.

Where did his father's money come from?

Property investments (some very dodgy). He came without any money. What pErv said could ring true. In the NYT report is a video showing where his father made his money. Different housing schemes and buildings. He was a shady guy.

His father always said: "sleeping was a waste of time".

[DRSB]

The mafia?

Mafia means some party or fraction controls the industry, back to the establishment frame.

[Scot Dutchy]

The mafia?

Mafia means some party or fraction controls the industry, back to the establishment frame.

In Italy not in New York. Joe Kennedy was another who profited at that time.

[DRSB]

The mafia?

Mafia means some party or fraction controls the industry, back to the establishment frame.

In Italy not in New York. Joe Kennedy was another who profited at that time.

In my understanding, establishment and mafia have many common features.

[tattuchu]

Video I posted appears to be taken down. Let's try this one and see how long it lasts.

[Svartalf]

The mafia?

Mafia means some party or fraction controls the industry, back to the establishment frame.

In Italy not in New York. Joe Kennedy was another who profited at that time.

In my understanding, establishment and mafia have many common features.

except establishment sends you lawyers and policemen rather than legbreakers when you cross them.

[DRSB]

The mafia?

Mafia means some party or fraction controls the industry, back to the establishment frame.

In Italy not in New York. Joe Kennedy was another who profited at that time.

In my understanding, establishment and mafia have many common features.

except establishment sends you lawyers and policemen rather than legbreakers when you cross them.

Minor details.

[Scot Dutchy]

Painful ones though. American Mafia was into crime in a big way and by the thirties and forties had plenty of money that needed white washing. Property investment was the ideal way to do it. Joe Kennedy did it and bought Jack the election.

[DRSB]

Painful ones though. American Mafia was into crime in a big way and by the thirties and forties had plenty of money that needed white washing. Property investment was the ideal way to do it. Joe Kennedy did it and bought Jack the election.

That's what I am telling you, mafia and establishment, same origins, same philosophy.

[Scot Dutchy]

Trump was not part of either. He was trying to get in but not being accepted. Mafia used him and the establishment rejected him. He was not New England or Texan stock. Joe Kennedy married in. Trump did not.