"The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Seabass » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:58 am

More from that CNN panel:



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Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:03 am

If only there had been signs he'd turn out like this.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:29 am

all the signs were there, he was a mostly failed businessman (I mean, managing to get an Atlantic City casino into bankruptcy requires some egregious mishandling), and trash tv personality... he was a ronnie reagan type, just trashier and with no political experience, at all. his being unable to handle the function could be predicted and likely was.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Tero » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:05 pm

Mitch McConnell blames the poor for Trump’s Trillion-Dollar deficit
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:08 pm

Mitch macConnelle is a pork barrel guzzler, he recognizes only tax cuts and allowances to his riding as positive things, all other expenses and actions are Baaaad.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:26 pm

Everyone told them this would happen.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Forty Two » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:17 pm

Hermit wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:48 am

Yes, we must continue to "show them the error of their ways to the best of our ability. Challenge their ideas. Change thought. Provoke change by intelligent debate". It worked so exceedingly well in the past 40 years.
What alternatives do you suggest?

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Post by Tero » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Trump WH is an arbtrirary bureaucrat! Drained the swamp of libertarians into WH. Example: did not consult businesses on tariffs:
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In a letter to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer dated Monday, 169 representatives pushed the White House to let firms request exclusions from the duties. Last month, the Trump administration slapped 10 percent tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports, which will rise to 25 percent at the end of the year.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:23 pm

This thread is very confusing with its title. I keep thinking it's the joke thread.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Forty Two » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:39 pm

Seabass wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:00 pm

This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. There are no "left wing solutions", you tit. There are only "solutions", which are of course embraced by the left, but shunned by the American right, because the American right are supernaturalist dimwits who value only religion, guns, and voodoo economics. But that's standard right-wingerism, isn't it—if the facts don't fit your worldview, make up some alternative ones, and call the real ones "liberal" or "left wing"!
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See, this is where you are wrong. The solutions that are supported by the climate mob are pro-socialist - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... cialist-c/ - The big solution so many support? Paris Climate Accord - a giant wealth transfer scheme.
....socialists, who also claim the euphemistic title of “progressives,” tend to shun energy derived from advanced extraction techniques, such as fracking and nuclear power, in favor of yesterday’s intermittent sunbeam catchers and wind mills. Besides, how social is leaving more than a billion people without electricity, when proven, low cost, abundant fossil fuel resources are readily available? And, how about the more than 2.7 billion without clean cooking facilities? Instead of schemes to redistribute wealth, how about programs to distribute reliable boundless energy to all those in dire need?
And, https://torontosun.com/2017/06/03/the-p ... f4cf2311ce
It’s funny how esteem for the Paris climate accord has grown since it was signed in December 2015.

Back then it was seen as a weak, political document filled with meaningless promises, diplomatic compromises and dubious science. Yet now that U.S. President Donald Trump has withdrawn his country from the accord, you would think the Paris agreement had descended, wrapped in gold, from a shimmering cloud.

The Paris accord isn’t close to being a binding agreement. Nor is it based much on science.

It has no hard-and-fast emission-reduction targets: Governments set their own targets based on what they think they can get away with with voters or what they think they have to give up to shut up the environmental lobby (which is huge and extremely well-funded) and its media pals.

For instance, in Paris, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau committed Canada to reducing its emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030.

There is no way for us to do that without crippling our economy and putting millions out of work. That kind of emissions cut would require the equivalent of parking every car, truck, airplane, bus and train in the country – permanently – or shutting down every factory and non-nuclear power plant.

Not gonna happen. But fear not, the Paris accord gives the UN no power by which to enforce our promised reductions or punish our failure.

So how then can the UN claim adherence to Paris will keep global temperatures from rising more than 1.5°C? The same way Al Capone could claim he made a meagre middle-class income while pocketing millions annually from bootleg liquor: creative accounting.

As Tim Kruger of Oxford University’s geo-engineering program pointed out in London’s Guardian paper in April 2016, all of the models that show the Paris accord stopping climate change are based on “massive deployment” of biomass energy coupled with technology to capture the carbon dioxide that will be created and “sequestering” it in the ground.

But the technology for neither of those – neither mass energy generation from biomass (burning wood chips, seaweed, cornstalks, etc.) nor mass carbon sequestration – exists yet on a large enough scale. And there is no evidence on the horizon it is coming, either.

Furthermore, biomass burning to create electricity produces about one-quarter more carbon dioxide and vastly more aerial solids than burning coal. So it is entirely possible that if the Paris accord is applied before the technology exists to use biomass more cleanly, adhering to Paris will actually make climate change worse.

As Kruger pointed out, “There is a distinct lack of evidence to determine whether (biomass and carbon capture) are technically feasible, economically affordable, environmentally benign, socially acceptable and politically viable.” Yet the whole of the Paris accord is based on these magic-wand technologies appearing in the next decade or two on such a grand scale that they can save the planet.

Since Paris is a largely toothless, rhetorical symbol – and not a legally binding treaty – might it have been wiser for Trump and the U.S. to take the easy way; play the Paris game and pretend to be committed the way the Chinese are?

Maybe. I commend the U.S. president for his honesty and political courage in dumping the pretentious, moralistic, socialist document.

The hysterical reaction to Trump’s move, though, shows how much more importance “progressives” place on appearances over of results. Former U.S. President Barack Obama even popped his retired head up to insist his successor had “turned his back on the future.”

Oh, please, the Paris accord was such a sham that U.S. withdrawal will do nothing to rescue or destroy Earth.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Tero » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:42 pm

Animavore wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:23 pm
This thread is very confusing with its title. I keep thinking it's the joke thread.
It’s all the same. Trump is a joke.
:funny:
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... the climate mob ...
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:30 pm

Tero wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:42 pm
Animavore wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:23 pm
This thread is very confusing with its title. I keep thinking it's the joke thread.
It’s all the same. Trump is a joke.
:funny:
Just merge them. He is a waste of space anyway.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:31 pm

Further rejection of science and reason on the altar of Trumpism. If Trump came out against evolution I have no doubt they would defend him rather than contradict their infallible leader.
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Re: "The butt of global jokes": who might this be? (Talk Trump)

Post by Forty Two » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:21 pm

Animavore wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:31 pm
Further rejection of science and reason on the altar of Trumpism. If Trump came out against evolution I have no doubt they would defend him rather than contradict their infallible leader.
You have to try to understand, that in the atheist and skeptic community, even among those atheists and skeptics who know something between jack and squat about the actual science of biology and biological evolution, the issue of the theory of evolution is of rather high importance due to its conflict with religion. However, to the average John and Jane Q. Public, whether someone believes in evolution or not is of rather small importance and they don't spend much, if any, time or energy discussing or debating the issues. I.e., many people wouldn't care what the President's position on the theory of evolution is because they're not electing a University Professor.

It's the same reason so many people don't care if he cheated on his wives. It's not part of the job he's being hired for.
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