The End of NATO

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by laklak » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:54 pm

The Germans haven't marched into Poland for a while, either.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:02 pm

yeah right, and there isn't a Russian puppet state occupying part of Moldavia, or russian troops masking as local freedom fighters in Eastern Ukraine, and the Crimea still is an Ukrainian possession, and Georgian politics have not been interfered with, and the Chechens are a free nation and not Russian subjects...
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Post by Jason » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:07 pm

Would be worse if there was no credible NATO threat though, don't you think?

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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:25 pm

If Putin is going to sell gas to Germany, it’s only natural if he wants to control both ends of the pipe!
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by laklak » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:58 pm

Vlad is just thinking about the Non-Aggression Pact. Payback is a motherfucker.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by JimC » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:29 am

I think it would be virtually certain that a toothless Nato (perhaps after a Trump pull-out) would mean that the Baltic states are re-absorbed into Greater Russia...

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:33 am

JimC wrote:
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I think it would be virtually certain that a toothless Nato (perhaps after a Trump pull-out) would mean that the Baltic states are re-absorbed into Greater Russia...

Putin FTW...
Evidence? They are part of the EU. Maybe you are living too far away Jim to get a proper view?
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by JimC » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:32 am

Being in the EU does not provide a magical protection from potential Russian aggression. I'm by no means saying that aggressive expansion by Putin's Russia is inevitable, but a militarily weaker Europe may make Putin more inclined to gamble...
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:40 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:32 am
Being in the EU does not provide a magical protection from potential Russian aggression. I'm by no means saying that aggressive expansion by Putin's Russia is inevitable, but a militarily weaker Europe may make Putin more inclined to gamble...
He wants trade Jim. He has so much to sell. The EU is right next to him which is why the Orange Scrotum is so worried.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Svartalf » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:21 pm

He wants Empire... to him, the Baltic States, Finland and Poland are part of Great Soviet Russia.

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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:41 am

Together Trump and Putin can forge an Empire that will last for a thousand years.
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by JimC » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:01 am

Ultimately, there will be room for only one Emperor, and it will be the one with better than a double digit IQ...
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Hermit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:56 am

JimC wrote:
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Ultimately, there will be room for only one Emperor, and it will be the one with better than a double digit IQ...
Two can coexist peacefully side by side. All it takes is a non-aggression pact.

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Post by JimC » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:11 am

We know how that ended....
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Re: The End of NATO

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:50 am

Svartalf wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:21 pm
He wants Empire... to him, the Baltic States, Finland and Poland are part of Great Soviet Russia.

Inner national trade is better than international trade.
Cant see the logic because there is none. Peace and trade are far better than domination and isolation. What would it achieve? That is the Trump way and American propaganda. Putin has sign gas deals with the EU and other European countries. Gas has no future. Our gas fields will be shut by 2020.
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