Trump supporters; how far?
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well, 42 to begin with, I think. and maybe Tyrannical, though I believe he supports only trumpist policies that agree with him...
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A few other Trump supporters who are members here have not posted for a while. Seth is too busy now, writing for the Daily Caller and the Colorado Gazette. Dodo's liver might have packed up. Some bloke who bragged about his degree from a diploma mill used to drop in occasionally and a few others I only vaguely recall.
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There are Trump supporters everywhere.
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Re: Trump supporters; how far?
I was in the "OK let's try to tolerate the idiot for 4 years" camp, but I grossly underestimated just how much damage one idiot in the office of POTUS can do. The world has become surreal.
Re: Trump supporters; how far?
The power of the office has increased greatly since WWII, and while the exigencies of the nuclear age may have justified some of it, far too much has been delegated to, or taken by, the President over the years. Now that we have Trump in office, he's doing a lot more damage as a result.
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Oh it has not and you're just being silly. Huuuuge amount of smoke, tiny little fire. The only 'damage' he's done is to other politician's ego.
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Oh look a troll/racist is supporting Trump, denying reality, and promulgating a false alternative.Tyrannical wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:36 pmOh it has not and you're just being silly. Huuuuge amount of smoke, tiny little fire. The only 'damage' he's done is to other politician's ego.
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I'm not a troll, believer in evolution yes. But what reality and false alternative am I really promulgating? What has Trump really done that doesn't involve 'hurt feelings'?Śiva wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 pmOh look a troll/racist is supporting Trump, denying reality, and promulgating a false alternative.Tyrannical wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:36 pmOh it has not and you're just being silly. Huuuuge amount of smoke, tiny little fire. The only 'damage' he's done is to other politician's ego.
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Surely you jest, you understand that he's doing colossal damage to the US' political credit... nobody can trust the country to keep to treaties or other transnational agreements after he's been there, and that credit he's squandered took decades to build and will take more decades to rebuild... unless the US decide to rule the world at missile point, which is about the only way they are going to be taken seriously, because nobody wants a nuke exchange, but it feels like some countries might get closer to Putin's Russia as a result.eTyrannical wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:36 pmOh it has not and you're just being silly. Huuuuge amount of smoke, tiny little fire. The only 'damage' he's done is to other politician's ego.
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Not to mention that all the work that needs to be done re-establishing all the trade relations he's so busy smashing up globally. Not to mention the fact that he also has our military alliances in his sights.
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well, expect the taxes to rise as Europe rebuilds its militaries to compensate the lack of NATO forces, it's sad, but with an expansionist Russia at our gates, I fear it's necessary. I always believed that a country with only a single aircraft carrier ship was a tad ludicrous.
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So now you are starting to get it, though you don't have to like it. Because of Trump you will buy more US military hardware and LNG.Svartalf wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pmwell, expect the taxes to rise as Europe rebuilds its militaries to compensate the lack of NATO forces, it's sad, but with an expansionist Russia at our gates, I fear it's necessary. I always believed that a country with only a single aircraft carrier ship was a tad ludicrous.
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well, we may have to do things we dojn't like, but we'll most likely also do stuff the US won't like, like rebuilding our militaries on strictly home resources rather than buying supplies abroad.
except the electronics that will go on being East Asian because we have to rely on Chinese rare earths.
except the electronics that will go on being East Asian because we have to rely on Chinese rare earths.
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Where is the expansion of Russia? Dont listen to American propaganda. Trump wants to destroy the EU. We are economically too big for America. It cant kick us around. This carry on about paying for NATO is another way of attacking the EU. We should just pull out.
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Re: Trump supporters; how far?
France has the capacity to manufacture her own military hardware. So does Germany. Why would anyone buy US?Tyrannical wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:56 pmSo now you are starting to get it, though you don't have to like it. Because of Trump you will buy more US military hardware and LNG.Svartalf wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pmwell, expect the taxes to rise as Europe rebuilds its militaries to compensate the lack of NATO forces, it's sad, but with an expansionist Russia at our gates, I fear it's necessary. I always believed that a country with only a single aircraft carrier ship was a tad ludicrous.
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