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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:19 am

The tip of the iceberg:

Is there a dark side to the growing obsession with skincare?
It’s the latest trend in self care, with women now using up to 10 products on their face as part of their daily routine. Is this focus on our skin healthy and helpful – or just an expensive new pressure?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:28 am

Surprised?

Millions of British children breathing toxic air, Unicef warns
More than 4.5m affected, says UN group, while tests suggest children’s shorter height increases exposure on busy roads

More than 4.5 million children in the UK are growing up in areas with toxic levels of air pollution, the UN children’s organisation Unicef has warned.

Tests suggesting that children walking along busy roads are exposed to a third more air pollution than adults, as their shorter height places them close to passing car exhausts, were also released on Thursday.

The Unicef report found that almost a third of under-18s live in places with unsafe levels of small particulate pollution, including 1.6 million under-fives and 270,000 babies. The analysis is based on the World Health Organization limit set in 2005, which is 60% lower than the legal limit in England and Wales.
Never mind kids in buggies.
The tests on children’s exposure next to busy roads are relevant to the millions of children walk to school each day, with experts are advising that where practical parents choose quieter routes, away from traffic, as this can cut pollution exposure by almost two-thirds. Other scientists have suggested parents use covers on their prams and buggies during the school run to protect their infants from air pollution. Half of all children walk to school, but being driven to school by car instead can actually result in greater pollution exposure for those inside the vehicle, previous research has shown.
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:41 am

In summer I shower every day, but that's because I sweat all day due to the high heat and humidity. In winter, if I don't do anything during the day (which is common) I only shower every second (or sometimes third) day. Living alone and not leaving the house makes it easier to get away with that. If I was working I'd shower every day.
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Post by Rum » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:42 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:28 am
Surprised?

Millions of British children breathing toxic air, Unicef warns
More than 4.5m affected, says UN group, while tests suggest children’s shorter height increases exposure on busy roads

More than 4.5 million children in the UK are growing up in areas with toxic levels of air pollution, the UN children’s organisation Unicef has warned.

Tests suggesting that children walking along busy roads are exposed to a third more air pollution than adults, as their shorter height places them close to passing car exhausts, were also released on Thursday.

The Unicef report found that almost a third of under-18s live in places with unsafe levels of small particulate pollution, including 1.6 million under-fives and 270,000 babies. The analysis is based on the World Health Organization limit set in 2005, which is 60% lower than the legal limit in England and Wales.
Never mind kids in buggies.
The tests on children’s exposure next to busy roads are relevant to the millions of children walk to school each day, with experts are advising that where practical parents choose quieter routes, away from traffic, as this can cut pollution exposure by almost two-thirds. Other scientists have suggested parents use covers on their prams and buggies during the school run to protect their infants from air pollution. Half of all children walk to school, but being driven to school by car instead can actually result in greater pollution exposure for those inside the vehicle, previous research has shown.
Your hatred of England as ever. Amsterdam gets a D+ - (lower than London) for air pollution levels,

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:44 am

Your Anglo-Saxon mindset can't comprehend how much better Dutch pollution is for you than British pollution..
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:15 am

Rum wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:42 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:28 am
Surprised?

Millions of British children breathing toxic air, Unicef warns
More than 4.5m affected, says UN group, while tests suggest children’s shorter height increases exposure on busy roads

More than 4.5 million children in the UK are growing up in areas with toxic levels of air pollution, the UN children’s organisation Unicef has warned.

Tests suggesting that children walking along busy roads are exposed to a third more air pollution than adults, as their shorter height places them close to passing car exhausts, were also released on Thursday.

The Unicef report found that almost a third of under-18s live in places with unsafe levels of small particulate pollution, including 1.6 million under-fives and 270,000 babies. The analysis is based on the World Health Organization limit set in 2005, which is 60% lower than the legal limit in England and Wales.
Never mind kids in buggies.
The tests on children’s exposure next to busy roads are relevant to the millions of children walk to school each day, with experts are advising that where practical parents choose quieter routes, away from traffic, as this can cut pollution exposure by almost two-thirds. Other scientists have suggested parents use covers on their prams and buggies during the school run to protect their infants from air pollution. Half of all children walk to school, but being driven to school by car instead can actually result in greater pollution exposure for those inside the vehicle, previous research has shown.
Your hatred of England as ever. Amsterdam gets a D+ - (lower than London) for air pollution levels,
Which index are you looking at? Must be British.
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Re: British News (Non Trump for a change)

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:21 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:44 am
Your Anglo-Saxon mindset can't comprehend how much better Dutch pollution is for you than British pollution..
You forgot, he's committing tu quoque by bringing it up in the first place.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:29 pm

If you google city name and "air quality", you get an air quality rating. That will change periodically as it's measurements changing over time.

London - 1 https://www.google.com/search?ei=zqYrW6 ... 6RaKJtYmIQ
Oslo - 17
New York City - 22
Rotterdam - 24
Amsterdam - 26 https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... RURt1W_j4Q
Washington DC - 29
Berlin - 64

"The air quality in the Netherlands does not meet EU norms, especially in major Dutch cities and in the vicinity of motorways." https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutc ... -eu-limits "Amsterdam had the largest number of polluted areas, as four out of the ten streets that were monitored had too much nitrogen dioxide. Rotterdam, The Hague and Maastricht also had areas with excessive air pollution. Utrecht was the only major Dutch city that met European air quality standards."
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Rum » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:00 pm

It does change and I certainly don't dispute that. My Anglo Saxon mindset, in all its adversarial nastiness however finds a certain Netherlandian Scottish deserter using such statistics to have yet another dig at the country he fled requiring of a degree of challenge.

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Post by cronus » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:17 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6585705/f ... ne-barton/

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:45 pm

Rum wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:00 pm
It does change and I certainly don't dispute that. My Anglo Saxon mindset, in all its adversarial nastiness however finds a certain Netherlandian Scottish deserter using such statistics to have yet another dig at the country he fled requiring of a degree of challenge.
According to the googles this morning, London was better than Amsterdam - even New York City was slightly better than Amsterdam, this morning. London was almost ideal at "1".
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Rum » Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:51 pm

Here's some local news.

As some of you may have ascertained I live very close to Hadrian's wall. Indeed it goes through Carlisle and passes my place about a mile from here. You can follow the HW path all the way over to the east coast if you desire - a 75 mile walk. A lovely part of th world on a nice day. Truly horrible on a cold and damp January day.

Apparently however people have been using metal detectors around the wall, looking for Roman stuff. There's probably plenty still to be found too and it is illegal to use detectors without specific permission. In the process they are damaging sites and leaving a mess.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-44539389

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:47 am

JimC wrote:To me, it would only be excessive if you were having a shower more than once a day...
I take a bath at Christmas, and another on my birthday, whether I need it or not.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:54 am

Well we will be shortly to have our weekly sauna. That is the only way to get really clean.
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Post by Forty Two » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:08 pm

Harmondsworth Immigration Removal (detention) Centre -

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Asylum seekers in detention in the United Kingdom are on strike. They object to being treated as trash. The action began last Friday at Harmondsworth IRC, Immigration Removal Centre. Over 300 prisoners staged a sit-down protest and hunger strike. They are protesting the fast-track deportation program; the toxic health care system; the lack of access to legal representation, and more: “They’re not running detention. It’s like prison over here.”
http://www.womeninandbeyond.org/?p=13941

On Tuesday, 20 prisoners in Brook House IRC staged an all-night protest in the exercise yard. They all refused to return to their cells. Over 50 prisoners at Colnbrook IRC have also engaged in a collective action. Yesterday, at Campsfield IRC, near Oxford, about 50 prisoners started a hunger strike. In each instance, the prison’s response has been to take the bulk of prisoners and dump them into solitary. That’s what you do with defective parts.
At 615 prisoners, Harmondsworth IRC is one of Europe’s largest detention centers. It has always been an abomination. The conditions have always been inhumane. Last year, a surprise visit by the Chief Inspector of Prisons found mismanagement and worse: “A number of security procedures lacked proportionality. Separation was being used excessively and was not in line with the Detention Centre Rules. Disturbingly, a lack of intelligent individual risk assessment had meant that most detainees were handcuffed on escort and on at least two occasions, elderly, vulnerable and incapacitated detainees, one of whom was terminally ill, were needlessly handcuffed in an excessive and unacceptable manner. These men were so ill that one died shortly after his handcuffs were removed and the other, an 84 year-old-man, died while still in restraints. These are shocking cases where a sense of humanity was lost.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/women ... stmas.html
Yarl's Wood has a reputation for being the UK's worst immigration removal centre. Radhika Sanghani goes inside and finds women struggling to gain access to medicine, counselling and basic privacy
“I did not see a single face or hear the voice of another detainee. I was locked up for 38 hours with no exercise - every hour seemed like a year,” she says. “I started to challenge my mind to find the difference between a criminal and an asylum seeker. That day l felt like a criminal offender. As an asylum seeker we seek sanctuary but here in the UK we are treated as the outcast and the same way as the prisoners are treated.”

Shona was taken to Yarl’s Wood where she has been for over a month. This is because she was never officially given legal status in the UK. It is one of the UK’s 13 immigration removal centres, but is commonly known as the ‘worst’ after its endless reports of sexual abuse, hunger strikes and shocking healthcare. The centre is mainly for women – there are a few men in a separate unit – and children are no longer allowed to be held there, after an investigation suggested they were being badly treated.
Children aren't allowed there. I guess they either separate the children from the parent, or they go to a facility for parents with children together. Or, what? I guess it's possible that having a child in this circumstance means being released when one otherwise would be held -- but a Brit will have to set out the process for that.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/shinealig ... emote-uk-i Image

Sounds like Nazi Germany over there. I mean, this is like Boer and Kikuyu Concentration Camps all over again! That would be no exaggeration at all. This is an outrage. I mean, the tears should be flowing on the nightly news over this.
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