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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:15 pm

JimC wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:54 am
I saw an excerpt of the debate amongst the Democrat contenders.

Trump will win in 2020.

They have no fucking idea of anything other than their own egos.
So I guess you are over here with me now.

Weird place, JimC. Just wait til they call you 'alt-right' lol

Seriously though, the spooky spiritual lady might take the Dems somewhere better (like a win) the only other one who sounded sensible was Tulsi...of course, that might change once their 'debate' includes someone who isn't on their side, but for now, I don't see much floating to the top. Which I guess means Biden will get it.

Or Hillary. The US is all about royal families I guess...
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:48 pm

The healthcare issue: Biden is the one people will support. Independents, for the most part just working Americans not really interested in politics, will not vote forMedicare for all that separates the employer from health issues. Many see it as a benefit. On top of that many employers are self insured. The insurance company just does paperwork. I think in the short run the cost will be less for those employed.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:52 pm

The healthcare issue: Biden couldn't get it done, even with 8 years of Obama.

It won't happen because it can't happen. Just listen to Sanders describe how it will be paid for, if you don't believe me.
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:03 pm

Nobody is daring to mention "mandate" at this point. The combined Medicare/ private plan will only work with a mandate.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:14 pm

It will only work if you can get medical professionals to stop pursuing higher wages. The reason Canada loses all its good medics to the US, is that the money is better. Combine that with the smarts to count, and you have a recipe for only keeping altruists and losers.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:52 pm

There is speculation that he is only there as a strategy to hand 'his' voters over to one of the others.

When do they start to whittle down the field? Is that 'Mayor Pete' guy now out? There were raids on a housing office in his city, but I haven't heard since...
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:52 pm

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Thursday poll of likely Iowa caucusgoers from Monmouth University found Biden maintaining his lead in the state with 28% backing, but showed Warren, at 19%, gaining significant ground since the spring. No one else cracked 15%.
For Biden, electability continues to be a source of strength. And Warren, by the luck of the debate draw, hasn't yet had a chance to directly challenge it -- or him -- as Harris and Sen. Booker have.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:09 pm

Haven't fact checked this.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:40 pm

Doesn't have to. Do people think non-whites are dumber? Yep. Then what's the problem with saying they aren't?

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Post by Tero » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:48 pm

Warren will take Iowa. She will go about 50/50 with Biden to convention.
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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:34 am

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/ ... 20-1456224

In contrast to the debates, Friday's format of successive individual speeches did not encourage candidates to lay into their primary rivals. Trump was a more logical target.

And so it went.

“Trade war by tweet is not working for our farmers,” Elizabeth Warren told the crowd, whose cheers and whistles grew so deafening by the end of her address, she struggled to shout over it.

Billionaire Tom Steyer took the stage in his Iowa debut as a presidential candidate and drew robust applause after referring to Trump as the “criminal in the White House,” and calling for the ouster of Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell.

Pete Buttigieg accused Trump of “coddling white nationalists.” Alluding to the president’s clash with minority members of Congress, he spoke about his reverence for the American flag and how it symbolizes “the idea that we are able and indeed sometimes required to be critical of our leadership and when we do, no one will question our loyalty to the republic for which it stands, let alone tell us to go back to where we came from.”

A different scene played out just outside the venue before the event, where groups of supporters for each campaign formed cheering sections in an attempt to show organizational strength in the state.

But by early evening, the shouting on the street quieted — in one of the more poignant moments of the campaign — for a moment of silence for the victims of gun violence, an event put together by Beto O’Rourke’s staff. The former congressman from El Paso skipped the Wing Ding and state fair to support his home town in the aftermath of the shooting.

Walking to a plaza about a block from the venue, candidates including Buttigieg, Bill de Blasio, Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar and Michael Bennet — and representatives of nearly every other campaign — were instructed to hug someone from a competing campaign and say, “I love you.”
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:15 pm

Get real American Right-wing. We've been famously chided for calling far-right white-nationalists fascists and Nazi, and now it's time to return the favour when they call the Democrats (FFS) socialists!
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by JimC » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:07 pm

They have a faint pink tinge, though...
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