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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:40 pm

PA fail.
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I've lost track of ehat is left. Georgia recount?

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:38 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:48 pm
I don't necessarily disagree. I'm in favor of experimenting. I want things to get better. I would only caution that McConnell is able to do his evil laugh because people in Kentucky keep voting for him. They won't go anywhere just because the system is changed, and they are unlikely to be as compatible with the new system as people in other democracies are. This is especially relevant when you consider that the changes you're proposing are being done --by your admission-- to thwart their political ambitions, to make the country better by diminishing their influence.

We have a people problem.
McConnell and Trump type characters would be less likely to have power in a better system. The thing is, the system shapes the people as much as the people shape the system. People are products of our environment. Plurality winner take all is inherently divisive. Republicans aren't born hating Democrats and Democrats aren't born hating Republicans. It's the system that divides the country into two halves that hate each other. Well designed multiparty systems incentivise working together and finding consensus.

We have a relatively backwards culture compared to those found in developed countries, a system of government that gives the most backwards among us outsized power over our government's functions, and an election system that cleaves the country in two and turns us against each other. It's a shitty combination.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:50 am

Ah, not just conspiracy theories...
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....also punishing Democrats 2016. Though nobody questioned his votes. Only the trolls on social media were real and Comey's day before election laptop.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:54 pm

it's only the beginning! In another..oh..year or two, Trump will be put back on the throne!
Sidney Powell spent 10 years as an assistant U.S. Attorney herself. During that time, she successfully prosecuted Texas mobster Jimmy Chagra, whose family commissioned the hit on Federal Judge John Wood by Charles Harrelson. For the last 25 years she has been an incredibly successful appellate lawyer practicing in the federal courts. Again, not once has she ever revealed her entire case to the other side during a press conference or on a Fox News talking head show.

Why? Because she, like Giuliani, knows what she’s doing. Carlson knows this: Thus, the motivation for his monologue last night is fairly mysterious, and should probably be viewed in the context of Fox’s overall rapid shift to the political left.

Yesterday’s press conference was pure legal theater, designed to accomplish exactly what it achieved: To make this subject the prevailing topic of conversation across all social media platforms, and to raise public awareness of the nature of the charges the team will be making in court.

Even with Rudy’s hair dye streaming down his cheeks, Mission Accomplished.

Now, the hard work of actually convincing judges must begin in earnest, and it better happen fast.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:57 pm

"Fox’s overall rapid shift to the political left". Get real.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:32 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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"Fox’s overall rapid shift to the political left". Get real.
The lack of awareness from so many boggles the mind. I hope that he acknowledges the bullshit at least to himself. :lol:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:48 pm

At best it's been a slight glance towards the centre on one specific issue. The hyperbole is strong in that one.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:20 pm

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:21 pm

Trump et al lawsuits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_ ... l_election
Wayne county
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_ ... v._Detroit
of the precincts, the highest imbalance is 34 votes. Difference of all votes received vs counted votes.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:11 am

Canvassing the votes of a precinct:

Conducting the Canvass of Votes
An election official might consider providing a
brief review of the process at the beginning of the
canvass of votes. During the review, the election official might introduce the canvass board or boards,
elections office staff, and registered observers and
also remind the public about the observer rules of
conduct and behavior.
The election official can provide a place where
all observers and canvass board members can sign
in to the canvassing room. The sign-in form documents their presence at the canvass of votes, which
may be required by State or local law. Because documenting the process at all stages is essential to the
canvass of votes process, an election official may
assign an elections office staff member the task of
recording every action that the canvass board takes,
including any votes by board members.
Canvassing means different things in different
jurisdictions. In some States, the activities outlined
in the following paragraphs will occur as part of
the canvass of votes. In other jurisdictions, the
tasks are completed before the official start of the
canvass of votes, and, in still other jurisdictions, the
tasks are not completed as individual steps and are
accomplished in some other manner or order. The
U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) does not
endorse one method over another.

Inspecting Returns
Duplicating Ballots—For example, the canvass
board or the exception and issues subcanvass board
might review all ballots that have to be duplicated
before processing (torn etc ballots)

Reviewing Rejected Ballots—The canvass board
may review ballots that have been rejected. In some
jurisdictions, at least two members of the board
are assigned to examine each rejected ballot and to
confirm the rejection.
Reconciling Ballots Cast Outside the Polling
Place—By the end of the canvass of votes, the
canvass board will have reconciled all ballots cast
outside the polling place and precinct. These ballots
include regular absentee ballots...

Processing Provisional And Challenged Ballots

Federal law requires election officials to establish a free access system through which provisional
voters can check the status of their ballots if they
qualified for provisional ballots under the Help
America Vote Act.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:58 am

GSA chief personal email flooded with requests to explain herself. No response.
As part of the same email, Pennington sent two distinct statements, one of which she said was to be unattributed and the other one of which she said could be attributed to a GSA spokesperson. The substance of them amounted to this statement:

There are no updates at this time and GSA’s position remains the same. An ascertainment has not yet been made. GSA and its Administrator will continue to abide by, and fulfill, all requirements under the law and adhere to prior precedent established by the Clinton Administration in 2000.
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Post by Tero » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:53 pm

In a normal election, the people sign a voting book (printouts at polling place, bound in some manner) and then cast your vote.

CNN
While Ellis did not specify what she meant by inconsistent data, it's likely she was referring to precincts that are out of balance, where the number of voters recorded in the poll book doesn't match the number of ballots cast.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics ... index.html

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:14 pm

If the balance is higher than the votes cast then that's evidence of fraud in favour of Biden. If the balance is less than that's evidence of fraud against Trump. No other explanation is possible!
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