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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 pm

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I think Sanders is more popular than poll results indicate. I bet Warren is more popular than Biden too.
They're different kinds of popular. Bernie has a huge grassroots movement behind him, a ton of small donors, and has the support of the working class, Warren has sort of become the darling of the media and is popular with wealthy white liberals, and Biden has name recognition. All those people who don't follow politics are more likely to know who Biden is than the other two, because he was VP for eight years.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Seabass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:21 pm

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They are all too old...
Ageist! :cranky:
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Post by JimC » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:34 pm

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Animavore » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm

Jim has a point. The kids need to just say, "Ok boomer" and vote for AOC.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:45 pm

Jim is right. Bernie is a dinosaur.
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:58 pm

Biden needs to drop out and drop out soon. That Ukraine thing with Hunter is not going to end well for him, and the damage would be manageable as long as Biden wasn't still running.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:07 pm

You live in hope, don't you?
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by JimC » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:17 am

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You live in hope, don't you?
Is that Hope, Alabama, rated the most right-wing town in the USA?
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Post by Joe » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:07 am

There's a New Hope and a Good Hope in Alabama, but if you're just looking for plain old Hope, that's in Arkansas.

It's Bill Cilnton's home town. :biggrin:
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Post by Woodbutcher » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:29 am

There's also Hope, BC.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:52 am

Seabass wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:10 pm
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Yep. Trump is a lying sack of shit, and the worst President I've ever had. Which is why despite claiming I won't vote for Biden, if he's it, then I'll be voting for him.

I'm still going to bitch and moan though...
Bush was far worse. Two wars resulting in hundreds of thousands of dead, the creation of DHS and ICE, the USA Patriot Act and mass surveillance on US citizens, tried to ban gay marriage at the federal level, deregulated the banking industry, cut taxes on the rich even while getting us into two wars, gave us the 2nd worse recession in US history...
All good reasons. I'm going to avoid arguing who is objectively worse.

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:53 am

Seabass wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 pm
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Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:35 pm
I think Sanders is more popular than poll results indicate. I bet Warren is more popular than Biden too.
They're different kinds of popular. Bernie has a huge grassroots movement behind him, a ton of small donors, and has the support of the working class, Warren has sort of become the darling of the media and is popular with wealthy white liberals, and Biden has name recognition. All those people who don't follow politics are more likely to know who Biden is than the other two, because he was VP for eight years.
I made the same comment about Biden several months ago, but I don't think it works. If you're going to argue that Biden is leading because of name recognition then you can't use --in my opinion-- people who aren't interested in politics. It doesn't matter how long he was VP. Besides, do you really want to bet that Sanders name hasn't been more widely distributed than Biden's since 2016?

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:38 am

As if anyone is surprised. Some still maintain the USA is a democracy. :funny:

The five ways Republicans will crack down on voting rights in 2020
Given what’s at stake next year, the effort to prevent people voting will be fierce. We’ve been here before – and we can stop it
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by JimC » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:23 am

All sides of US politics have been known to gerrymander if given the opportunity. The clear solution is to put all electoral boundaries, state or federal, in the hands of an independent Electoral Commission...
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:46 am

You mean socialists?
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