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Post by Tero » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:00 pm

It would be quite the feather in his cap if trump could get rid of Pocahontas through his angry "people"

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Seabass » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:50 pm

How Trump Came to Enforce a Policy of Separating Migrant Families
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/16/us/p ... trump.html

WASHINGTON — Almost immediately after President Trump took office, his administration began weighing what for years had been regarded as the nuclear option in the effort to discourage immigrants from unlawfully entering the United States.

Children would be separated from their parents if the families had been apprehended entering the country illegally, John F. Kelly, then the homeland security secretary, said in March 2017, “in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network.”

For more than a decade, even as illegal immigration levels fell overall, seasonal spikes in unauthorized border crossings had bedeviled American presidents in both political parties, prompting them to cast about for increasingly aggressive ways to discourage migrants from making the trek.

Yet for George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the idea of crying children torn from their parents’ arms was simply too inhumane — and too politically perilous — to embrace as policy, and Mr. Trump, though he had made an immigration crackdown one of the central issues of his campaign, succumbed to the same reality, publicly dropping the idea after Mr. Kelly’s comments touched off a swift backlash.

But advocates inside the administration, most prominently Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump’s senior policy adviser, never gave up on the idea. Last month, facing a sharp uptick in illegal border crossings, Mr. Trump ordered a new effort to criminally prosecute anyone who crossed the border unlawfully — with few exceptions for parents traveling with their minor children.

And now Mr. Trump faces the consequences. With thousands of children detained in makeshift shelters, his spokesmen this past week had to deny accusations that the administration was acting like Nazis. Even evangelical supporters like Franklin Graham said its policy was “disgraceful.”

Among those who have professed objections to the policy is the president himself, who despite his tough rhetoric on immigration and his clear directive to show no mercy in enforcing the law, has searched publicly for someone else to blame for dividing families. He has falsely claimed that Democrats are responsible for the practice. But the kind of pictures so feared by Mr. Trump’s predecessors could end up defining a major domestic policy issue of his term.

Inside the Trump administration, current and former officials say, there is considerable unease about the policy, which is regarded by some charged with carrying it out as unfeasible in practice and questionable morally. Kirstjen Nielsen, the current homeland security secretary, has clashed privately with Mr. Trump over the practice, sometimes inviting furious lectures from the president that have pushed her to the brink of resignation.

But Mr. Miller has expressed none of the president’s misgivings. “No nation can have the policy that whole classes of people are immune from immigration law or enforcement,” he said during an interview in his West Wing office this past week. “It was a simple decision by the administration to have a zero tolerance policy for illegal entry, period. The message is that no one is exempt from immigration law.”

The administration’s critics are not buying that explanation. “This is not a zero tolerance policy, this is a zero humanity policy, and we can’t let it go on,” said Senator Jeff Merkley, Democrat of Oregon.
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Post by Seabass » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:17 pm

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:41 am

This is the new normal folks.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Seabass » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:38 pm

Hmmm... maybe this isn't really about flags and anthems...

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Seabass » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:02 pm

More people suffering under Trump. Trump specifically. How many more people have to suffer to make America great again?

California woman ‘in shock’ after ICE agents detain father, a legal resident, outside home
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/13/ ... side-home/
The daughter of a Los Angeles man who was detained Sunday outside his home by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents spoke out this week about his treatment and the immigration policies that appear to target longtime, law-abiding residents.

Jose Luis Garcia, 62, was watering his lawn and having his morning coffee outside his home in the Arleta neighborhood of San Fernando Valley when ICE agents put him in handcuffs and detained him, according to his daughter, Natalie Garcia.

The arrest came as a shock to the 32-year-old Garcia, who said that her father is a law-abiding, legal permanent resident who came to the United States nearly 50 years ago when he was 13 years old.
Michael Kaufman, a senior staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California, said the incident appears to fit a pattern under the Trump administration of detaining people with old, minor convictions.

“This is … a misdemeanor from two decades ago for which he’s completed his sentence,” Kaufman, who briefly spoke to Natalie Garcia but is not representing the family, said. “From what we know of this story, this is not an individual that presents a threat to anyone.”

Kaufman noted that the current administration no longer prioritizes targeting people with serious criminal convictions.

“It’s part of a pattern that we’ve seen of rounding up people who are longstanding members of our community who have family here and settled lives here and their lives are turned upside down because they may have committed some misdemeanor deep in their past,” Kaufman said.
Totally unfair and biased #FAKENEWSCNN interviewed his daughter.

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Tero » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:12 pm

I'll get my second (Foreign) passport out. Will ICE pay my airfare?
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:49 pm

Trump said he'd deport criminal immigrants, and he's doing just that. What's the problem? After all, those foreign criminals are putting genuine homegrown US criminals out of work.
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Post by Seabass » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:35 pm

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:03 am

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:40 am

The first lady seems to have some issues with the first man's policy of forcibly separating children from their parents and storing them in cages.
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Post by Rum » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:55 am

You can't make a tortilla without breaking eggs..

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Tero » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:34 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:49 pm
Trump said he'd deport criminal immigrants, and he's doing just that. What's the problem? After all, those foreign criminals are putting genuine homegrown US criminals out of work.
Because these ”criminals” have already served time or paid their fine. The crimes have been processed by the court system. It places green card holders in a different category than citizens. You obviously could get deported for murder but Trump is deporting you for crimes similar to his own: grabbing pussy, white collar crimes.
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Re: All Things Trump

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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Tero » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:41 pm

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In 2016, a majority of voters were 50 and older. This decisive voting bloc will be key to determining the balance of power in Washington this November.

In 2018, Florida hosts a contentious Senate election as well as many key House races. We polled voters aged 50 and older in Florida about their lives, President Trump and Congress to get a sense of how they might vote.

Here’s what we learned.
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52% approve
44% disapprove
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