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Starbucks coffee. Any colour but black.

Post by mistermack » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:19 pm

American media going mental over a storm in a teacup.

Two blacks asked to leave Starbucks, when they came in, sat down, but didn't order anything.
They refused, apparently, to either buy something or leave, they said they were waiting for a friend, and so the manager called the cops and they were peacefully arrested.
(by a gang of about five or six very aggressive looking cops).

Now the chain will be closing 8,000 stores for a day for "racial bias education".

As I see it, the arrest was warranted. If you are asked to leave, you have to leave. The cops were right.
The manager had the right to ask them to leave, and they refused. She had a right to call the cops.

The only debatable thing is whether she would have asked a couple of whites to buy something or leave.
They would in this country. Or might. It would be up to the manager, what mood they were in, and how busy the place was. If tables were short, and people were coming in and not buying, they probably would.
If it was quiet, they might or might not ask you to buy something or leave.

Maybe in the US they only ask blacks to leave. It's a funny place in lots of ways.

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Post by LucidFlight » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:42 pm

They should have at least asked to see their Starbucks membership cards first.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:59 pm



--probably going to hell for this one...

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:25 pm

Definitely. :biggrin:
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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:31 pm

Yay! A thread of white people talking about how the discrimination they don't suffer from in society is no big deal.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:38 pm

Nobody said anything like that.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:40 pm

The OP literally did. First sentence.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:43 pm

The OP also acknowledges that if there is a problem here it would be that they were asked to leave because they are black.

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Post by Rum » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:59 pm

Anim - you seem to be getting as intolerant as the people you attack for being intolerant these days. Give it a rest.

Yeah - and have a go at me too for saying so.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:03 pm

As I've said. It's all in the first sentence. The rest is negated after that.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:06 pm

Rum wrote:Anim - you seem to be getting as intolerant as the people you attack for being intolerant these days. Give it a rest.

Yeah - and have a go at me too for saying so.
Not gonna have a go at you, but you should read Karl Popper on the Paradox of Tolerance.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:15 pm

I'd have a go on Rum any day.

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Post by JimC » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:36 pm

The real issue would be whether there is a statistical anti-black bias in Starbucks stores, rather than a one-off incident. I'm not saying there is or there isn't, but if one exists, that would be reasonable grounds for some form of re-training.
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Post by Rum » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:45 pm

Animavore wrote:
Rum wrote:Anim - you seem to be getting as intolerant as the people you attack for being intolerant these days. Give it a rest.

Yeah - and have a go at me too for saying so.
Not gonna have a go at you, but you should read Karl Popper on the Paradox of Tolerance.
I have read that stuff and I don't agree with him. I know when I'm dealing with reasonable people. I don't know what you are like in RL these days but when we have met you always struck me as reasonable and sociable - as well as exceedingly bright.

These days here you pop on - have a pop at someone - and pop off again.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Rum wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Rum wrote:Anim - you seem to be getting as intolerant as the people you attack for being intolerant these days. Give it a rest.

Yeah - and have a go at me too for saying so.
Not gonna have a go at you, but you should read Karl Popper on the Paradox of Tolerance.
I have read that stuff and I don't agree with him. I know when I'm dealing with reasonable people. I don't know what you are like in RL these days but when we have met you always struck me as reasonable and sociable - as well as exceedingly bright.

These days here you pop on - have a pop at someone - and pop off again.

Join in and engage. 42 is not the spawn of Satan...though there are one or two here who just might be.
42 supports a racist, misogynistic, fraudster, rapist, con artist who has ripped-off and damaged many people and makes excuses for this behaviour. I don't think he's Satan, but I can't see how he can be considered a good person. I'd rather not associate with him.

Not sure what he has to do with this thread.
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