Trump and Russia; Spasiba, Harasho!

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Re: Trump and Russia; Spasiba, Harasho!

Post by Joe » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:47 pm

I'd say the latter. After, all, evidence and logic are only so valid. A really strongly expressed opinion is what's important. Repetition is important too.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:48 pm

Much of his lying appears indistinguishable from pathological confabulation. Without FOX & Friends to excuse him and back him up he'd probably be in a home by now.

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Re: Trump and Russia; Spasiba, Harasho!

Post by Jason » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:29 pm

One word: Contrafibularity.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:49 pm

The shit keeps giving.

Paul Manafort associate who worked with Cambridge Analytica charged
Sam Patten has been charged with failing to register as a foreign agent in the US
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Post by JimC » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:47 pm

That's where Boris and Natasha kept getting it wrong - they forgot to register as foreign agents! :nono:
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:52 am

Manafort associate paid Trump inauguration $50,000 in Ukrainian cash
Sam Patten pleads guilty under Foreign Agents Registration Act
Republican once worked with Cambridge Analytica
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:10 am

Foreign agents must register in the US? I thought the point was that they should be secret agents.
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Post by Joe » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:23 pm

That's to lobby. You don't have to register to steal our secrets and compromise our national security.

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Post by Animavore » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:10 pm

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:16 pm

Śiva wrote:One word: Contrafibularity.
I shall deal with that interfrastically.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:30 am

More material for Trump sycophants to sneer at. Note that the link is to a New Yorker article. The New Yorker allows a limited number of free articles per month, after which a paywall is triggered.

'How Russia Helped Swing the Election for Trump'
Few people, including Trump’s opponents, have publicly challenged the widespread belief that no obtainable evidence can prove that Russian interference changed any votes. Democrats, for the most part, have avoided attributing Hillary Clinton’s defeat directly to Russian machinations. They have more readily blamed James Comey, the former F.B.I. director, for reversing Clinton’s thin lead in the final days of the campaign by reopening a criminal investigation into her mishandling of classified e-mails. Many have also expressed frustration with Clinton’s weak performance as a candidate, and with her campaign’s tactical errors. Instead of investigating whether Russia tipped the electoral scales on its own, they’ve focussed on the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia, and that this, along with other crimes, might be exposed by the probe being conducted by the special counsel, Robert Mueller.

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Politicians may be too timid to explore the subject, but a new book from, of all places, Oxford University Press promises to be incendiary. “Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President—What We Don’t, Can’t, and Do Know,” by Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor of communications at the University of Pennsylvania, dares to ask—and even attempts to answer—whether Russian meddling had a decisive impact in 2016. Jamieson offers a forensic analysis of the available evidence and concludes that Russia very likely delivered Trump’s victory.

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Re: Trump and Russia; Spasiba, Harasho!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:13 pm

There is nothing that can be done to stop Russian trolls. People in the world, whether in England or Germany or Russia or China or Australia are allowed to post on social media. They are allowed to have blogs. They are allowed to publish and speak and make videos and the like. If Russia created a crack team of 10,000 social media experts who created accounts and all were out there to, while engaged in otherwise perfectly legal publishing activities, tip the scales in favor of Hillary Clinton, the more stable, peaceful candidate -- what would be proposed to do about it?

And, "hackers?" If the hackers disclose truthful, but damaging information, is that really a bad thing? Reverse the roles - what if Trump's campaign had a dumpload of emails released, and it revealed dirty tricks, lies, and proved that Trump committed campaign finance violations by the millions and paid of 50 strippers and hookers to keep quiet using undisclosed campaign funds. The hacking might still be criminal, but would anyone be complaining about learning the truth?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:11 pm

Did you read the article?
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:33 am

Yep 80,000 votes over three states was all that was required. Simple.
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Re: Trump and Russia; Spasiba, Harasho!

Post by Woodbutcher » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:21 pm

No more cold war! Trump has successfully brought the US and Russia together as friends! The only US president in history to do that! Not only that, he has exposed Canada and European countries as the evil that has plagued the American public since forever! A win for Trump!
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