pErvinalia wrote:Forty Two wrote:pErvinalia wrote:Forty Two wrote:From the progressive viewpoint,
You still don't know what progressivism is. SJWs aren't the entirety (or even close to a majority) of progressive thought.
I never said or implied SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought.
I do know what progressivism is, but feel free to define it. Let's see if we agree. And, no, you did not already define it, as far as I know.
It's like fucking groundhog day with you. It's the same story every time. You claim I didn't do something, I then link it, and then you either equivocate and never admit you are wrong, or nick off and pretend like the post didn't happen.
I never said or implied that SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought. You've never linked to that, because you can't, because I never said it. Also, it's just a diversion on your part, anyway. You don't want to talk about the issue, so you make it about something you imagine I said, or some misinterpretation/misreading on your part. It doesn't matter, but it does let you derail the conversation into something about me, rather than the issue at hand.
pErvinalia wrote:
And you just quoted me quoting you where you say "from the progressive viewpoint".
Yes, and progressive is a viewpoint or set of viewpoints. There is nothing wrong with that, nor is it a suggestion that SJWs represent the entirety or majority of progressivism.
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The vast majority of progressives don't believe in the crazy shit these SJW's do.
So, I never said they did. It's not something I can talk about with you unless you tell me what the vast majority of progressives do believe. What I did do is refer to a specific viewpoint which is among the viewpoints generally categorized as progressive. That particular viewpoint is Progressive.
In the post which you first responded to accusing me of "equating" progressivism and SJWs, I did not do so. I merely referred to SJW Progressives. There are SJW Progressives, and that's who I was referring to.f
pErvinalia wrote:
You are being fed a spoonful of shit from the ridiculous media you consume. It's the same as how they have you convinced there is a cultural marxist conspiracy going on. These people represent the tiniest fractions of the population. There is no cultural marxist (or any marxist) or regressive left threat to society.
Non sequitur. I never equated the two, nor did I say that SJWs were the entirety or majority of Progressivism.
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So, if there is some post a year ago which you claim defines it, then you'll need to either link to it, or just note your definition here.
How about I do none of that, and continue to point out that you are wrong that this stuff is mainstream progressive thought.
Do what you want. It's idiotic, but you keep on keepin' on, brother. It's what you do. "point out" without argument and discussion, or any support/backup/evidence, that what you say is true or even internally consistent.
Look - I never said that SJWs were the entirety of or majority of Progressivism. Progressivism is a broad overarching ideology which has changed over time and has differed from country to country. Social Justice Warriors is the pejorative term for those who seek to advance identity politics, radical feminism, class theory of race/sex, intersectionalism, and other 21st century progressive notions like the Progressive Stack (a manifestation of class and identity politics) and other such issues.
SJWs are not the entirety of, or majority of 21st century Progressivism, since Progressivism also advances and supports other ideological and political concepts.
Naturally, not all people who call themselves "Progressives" believe the same things. However, you don't own the words, and your declarations about what the "majority" or "vast majority" believe are not established facts. If you have some data to support your assertions, then have at it. However, since I have not sought to claim what the majority or vast majority believe, and I have not equated SJWs to Progressivism, and I have not argued that SJWs are the entirety of or majoirty of Progressivism, then I have nothing here to prove. I'm not arguing those positions.
You're derailing and diverting, again, as is your usual game. Have fun with it, as always.
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