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Post by Tero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:58 pm

I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT LEEANN TWEEDEN MUCH LESS THE RANDOM WOMAN. Tweeden is NOT a good or credible person and defending that race-baiting birtherist offends me and many others.

Did I not predict this #MeToo “believe women no matter what” nonsense would become less and less credible while doing the disservice of trivializing REAL sexual assault??? Does NO ONE ever take advice from someone who has told you countless times what a witch-hunt looks like? Good lord, lets use our brains here! I have BEEN on the receiving end of a hashtag witch-hunt and had my life completely destroyed because of it—a life I never got back. I absolutely REFUSE to abandon a great man and civil rights champion for race-baiting LeeAnn Tweeden or some random woman who decided she was traumatized by an alleged pat on the butt a decade ago. (Literally ANYONE he’s ever taken a photo with can make that claim!)

The woe-is-she comments in Friday’s WTF moment and then again in Saturday’s AYFKM moment had already left a funky taste in my mouth. The fact that Democrats have turned on Franken repulses me. If you’ll turn on Franken—a near paragon of complete selflessness—you’ll turn on anyone, me included.
Shirley Sherrod’s beautiful story was condensed, packaged, and sold by Fox as further “proof” of the Obama administration’s dark, militant, sinister plan to wreak havoc on helpless, aggrieved white Americans while simultaneously instituting some bizarre socio-political combination of Sharia law meets communism (always mislabeled as socialism). Fox pushed this narrative on damn near every show in its schedule—if not every show in its schedule—until viewer hysteria reached a fever pitch and Republicans on the Hill demanded Sherrod’s removal from office.

Democrats caved… again… and Mrs. Sherrod was asked for her resignation. Shocked and heartbroken, she gave it. Meanwhile, the Spooners—the elderly white couple in question—learned what had happened. They were so angry that they went on CNN to raise the bullshit flag.
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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by Tero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:22 pm

Franken fingers Huffington? But why?!!
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Post by Seabass » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:36 pm

Well, I guess that's it for Al. Three strikes are probably too much for him to come back from. He'll get disappeared, and Roy Moore will end up in the Senate. Fuck.
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Post by Tero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:57 pm

One of my older spoofs, when i did not use pictures in the blog:
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
Democrats run man with no genitals in tight race
Chape Hill, N.C. -- In a tight race to replace Senator Leahy, who resigned in a scandal, Democrats are hoping to take advantage of the situation that put Republicans in shame, as hypocrites with no real morals.

But just to be sure, they have located a Vietnam war hero who fathered five children in a loving marriage, but destroyed his testicles in a freak motorcycle accident in the 1990s. But he remains active, hunting, fishing and running triathlons.

"Al is a perfect candidate. Sunday school teacher, lawyer and moderate liberal. Never divorced."

His opponent had the same qualifications, but also testicles.
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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by Tero » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:38 am

Harrison Ford rescues woman without touching her butt or boobs:
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Post by Seabass » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:10 am

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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:43 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:From the progressive viewpoint,
You still don't know what progressivism is. SJWs aren't the entirety (or even close to a majority) of progressive thought.
I never said or implied SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought.

I do know what progressivism is, but feel free to define it. Let's see if we agree. And, no, you did not already define it, as far as I know. So, if there is some post a year ago which you claim defines it, then you'll need to either link to it, or just note your definition here. Otherwise, there is nothing to talk about, since you're just up to your old nonsense of making personal attacks and one-line arguments amounting to "I'm right cuz I says so."
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:53 pm

pErvinalia wrote: Don't you get tired of repeating the "what about the menz" schtick??
I don't ever say "what about the menz." What I just illustrated was that equal treatment would result in nobody giving a flying fuck that Al Franken pretended to hover his hands over this woman's chest. She wasn't hurt by it. It was a gag. And, if the idea is that women are to be treated no differently than a guy, then it wouldn't matter.

Note, also, that you just got done saying "he wouldn't do that to a guy," and it's creepy to women to do that. So, you too are comparing treatment of males to the treatment of females.[/quote]
pErvinalia wrote: :fp: I'm pointing why it is sexist. And you aren't "comparing treatment of males to the treatment of females". You invent scenarios involving a man getting the same treatment anytime something like this happens to a woman, as a way of dismissing or trivialising what has just happened to the woman.
And, I'm pointing out that we don't know if it's sexist - you don't and I don't, because it's not an INHERENTLY sexist act. It's only sexist if Al Franken would not do the same or similar thing to a male.

I don't "invent" any scenarios. I compare the treatment of men to women, and nobody does care if a woman or a man touches or pretends to touch a man's chest. And, when we're talking about whether something is sexist, it's o.k. to compare how men are treated with how women are treated. That's inherent in the term sexism - disparate treatment.

I trivialize what happened to Al Franken's accuser because it is trivial. There is nothing significant about it. And, i don't see any evidence that Al Franken plays similar practical jokes only on women.
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or (B) we presume that certain behavior when done to a woman as opposed to a man is sexist per se.
And there you go again.
We're talking about sexist. Of course we compare how men and women are treated. If they're treated the same or equally, then it's not sexist. If they're treated differently based on sex, then it's sexist. That's what sexism is. Sexism is not "you can't say that to women."
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In that photo he was on a USO comedy tour, and he wasn't a politician. It's not sexual harassment at all, nor is it even sexist on its face. What if we find a picture of him doing the exact same thing with a man? Does it become non sexist?
And there you go again. Inventing hypotheticals to discount what actually happened in reality.
I'm illustrating why it is not sexual harassment.
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Now, if I have a habit of playing practical jokes on men, but not women, would that be sexist? What if I play the same practical joke on women and men - when I get the chance I pretend to grope their chests - is that sexist?
And again.
Exactly, because analyzing how men and women are treated and if they are treated differently, and how the same conduct is viewed when done to men or women, is part of determining if there is sexism. Such determinations are not able to be made just based on viewing individual conduct in isolation of such context, unless we are to presuppose that certain conduct is acceptable when it comes to men and not acceptable when it comes to women.

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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:From the progressive viewpoint,
You still don't know what progressivism is. SJWs aren't the entirety (or even close to a majority) of progressive thought.
I never said or implied SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought.

I do know what progressivism is, but feel free to define it. Let's see if we agree. And, no, you did not already define it, as far as I know.
It's like fucking groundhog day with you. It's the same story every time. You claim I didn't do something, I then link it, and then you either equivocate and never admit you are wrong, or nick off and pretend like the post didn't happen.

And you just quoted me quoting you where you say "from the progressive viewpoint". The vast majority of progressives don't believe in the crazy shit these SJW's do. You are being fed a spoonful of shit from the ridiculous media you consume. It's the same as how they have you convinced there is a cultural marxist conspiracy going on. These people represent the tiniest fractions of the population. There is no cultural marxist (or any marxist) or regressive left threat to society.
So, if there is some post a year ago which you claim defines it, then you'll need to either link to it, or just note your definition here.
How about I do none of that, and continue to point out that you are wrong that this stuff is mainstream progressive thought.
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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:31 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:From the progressive viewpoint,
You still don't know what progressivism is. SJWs aren't the entirety (or even close to a majority) of progressive thought.
I never said or implied SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought.

I do know what progressivism is, but feel free to define it. Let's see if we agree. And, no, you did not already define it, as far as I know.
It's like fucking groundhog day with you. It's the same story every time. You claim I didn't do something, I then link it, and then you either equivocate and never admit you are wrong, or nick off and pretend like the post didn't happen.
I never said or implied that SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought. You've never linked to that, because you can't, because I never said it. Also, it's just a diversion on your part, anyway. You don't want to talk about the issue, so you make it about something you imagine I said, or some misinterpretation/misreading on your part. It doesn't matter, but it does let you derail the conversation into something about me, rather than the issue at hand.
pErvinalia wrote:
And you just quoted me quoting you where you say "from the progressive viewpoint".
Yes, and progressive is a viewpoint or set of viewpoints. There is nothing wrong with that, nor is it a suggestion that SJWs represent the entirety or majority of progressivism.
pErvinalia wrote: The vast majority of progressives don't believe in the crazy shit these SJW's do.
So, I never said they did. It's not something I can talk about with you unless you tell me what the vast majority of progressives do believe. What I did do is refer to a specific viewpoint which is among the viewpoints generally categorized as progressive. That particular viewpoint is Progressive.

In the post which you first responded to accusing me of "equating" progressivism and SJWs, I did not do so. I merely referred to SJW Progressives. There are SJW Progressives, and that's who I was referring to.f
pErvinalia wrote: You are being fed a spoonful of shit from the ridiculous media you consume. It's the same as how they have you convinced there is a cultural marxist conspiracy going on. These people represent the tiniest fractions of the population. There is no cultural marxist (or any marxist) or regressive left threat to society.
Non sequitur. I never equated the two, nor did I say that SJWs were the entirety or majority of Progressivism.
pErvinalia wrote:
So, if there is some post a year ago which you claim defines it, then you'll need to either link to it, or just note your definition here.
How about I do none of that, and continue to point out that you are wrong that this stuff is mainstream progressive thought.
Do what you want. It's idiotic, but you keep on keepin' on, brother. It's what you do. "point out" without argument and discussion, or any support/backup/evidence, that what you say is true or even internally consistent.

Look - I never said that SJWs were the entirety of or majority of Progressivism. Progressivism is a broad overarching ideology which has changed over time and has differed from country to country. Social Justice Warriors is the pejorative term for those who seek to advance identity politics, radical feminism, class theory of race/sex, intersectionalism, and other 21st century progressive notions like the Progressive Stack (a manifestation of class and identity politics) and other such issues.

SJWs are not the entirety of, or majority of 21st century Progressivism, since Progressivism also advances and supports other ideological and political concepts.

Naturally, not all people who call themselves "Progressives" believe the same things. However, you don't own the words, and your declarations about what the "majority" or "vast majority" believe are not established facts. If you have some data to support your assertions, then have at it. However, since I have not sought to claim what the majority or vast majority believe, and I have not equated SJWs to Progressivism, and I have not argued that SJWs are the entirety of or majoirty of Progressivism, then I have nothing here to prove. I'm not arguing those positions.

You're derailing and diverting, again, as is your usual game. Have fun with it, as always.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:From the progressive viewpoint,
You still don't know what progressivism is. SJWs aren't the entirety (or even close to a majority) of progressive thought.
I never said or implied SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought.

I do know what progressivism is, but feel free to define it. Let's see if we agree. And, no, you did not already define it, as far as I know.
It's like fucking groundhog day with you. It's the same story every time. You claim I didn't do something, I then link it, and then you either equivocate and never admit you are wrong, or nick off and pretend like the post didn't happen.
I never said or implied that SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought. You've never linked to that, because you can't, because I never said it.
What the fuck are you talking about?? You said I haven't previously defined progressivism. I'm talking about that, not linking to some inconsequential shit you've dreamed up.
Also, it's just a diversion on your part, anyway. You don't want to talk about the issue, so you make it about something you imagine I said, or some misinterpretation/misreading on your part. It doesn't matter, but it does let you derail the conversation into something about me, rather than the issue at hand.
FFS, can you ever stop whining? Not everything has an ulterior motive. I don't give a fuck about derailing anything. What I give a fuck about is your bullshitting. If you can't own what you say, then don't fucking say it.
pErvinalia wrote:
And you just quoted me quoting you where you say "from the progressive viewpoint".
Yes, and progressive is a viewpoint or set of viewpoints.
What I'm trying to tell you is that it's not one that encompasses the fringe shit that you go on about.
pErvinalia wrote: The vast majority of progressives don't believe in the crazy shit these SJW's do.
So, I never said they did.
So why did you call it a progressive viewpoint? Why are you associating a loony fringe with the mainstream?
pErvinalia wrote: You are being fed a spoonful of shit from the ridiculous media you consume. It's the same as how they have you convinced there is a cultural marxist conspiracy going on. These people represent the tiniest fractions of the population. There is no cultural marxist (or any marxist) or regressive left threat to society.
Non sequitur. I never equated the two, nor did I say that SJWs were the entirety or majority of Progressivism.
It's not a non-sequitur as it establishes a pattern of hyperbolic beliefs from you. You are fixated on a largely inconsequential fringe element, who if they got their way would only make life slightly more uncomfortable for you (as opposed to the loony right who would happily lynch anyone who is different from them).
Look - I never said that SJWs were the entirety of or majority of Progressivism. Progressivism is a broad overarching ideology which has changed over time and has differed from country to country. Social Justice Warriors is the pejorative term for those who seek to advance identity politics, radical feminism, class theory of race/sex, intersectionalism, and other 21st century progressive notions like the Progressive Stack (a manifestation of class and identity politics) and other such issues.
I love how you tacked the "progressive stack" on the end there, just to try and equate the other crazier stuff with something that can be considered somewhat progressive. It's exactly the same tactic you use when you tack "progressive" on the end (or start) of an SJW perjorative. The same as how a few months ago you were trying to conflate black block with antifa and the broader left. It's always the same with you. And when you get called on this stuff you claim you never meant all the left, or all the progressives, or all antifa. You are either terribly dishonest or have no concept of how rhetoric works.
I have not equated SJWs to Progressivism,
You have in the sense that you are claiming they are a subset. They aren't. They may intersect at the fringes, but that's a different dynamic than constantly associated SJWs with progressives.
You're derailing and diverting, again, as is your usual game. Have fun with it, as always.
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Re: Stop presses! Democrat gropes!

Post by Forty Two » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:06 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
I never said or implied that SJWs were the entirety or even close to the majority of progressive thought. You've never linked to that, because you can't, because I never said it.
What the fuck are you talking about?? You said I haven't previously defined progressivism. I'm talking about that, not linking to some inconsequential shit you've dreamed up.
I said I'm not aware of it. Either do it or don't, I don't care. And the inconsequential shit is not what I dreamed up, it's what you accused me of -- I'm nearly quoting you there. You accused me of saying that sjws were the entirety of progressivism, or the vast majority. That's whaqt your bullshit was. I agree, it's bullshit, because I never said it.
pErvinalia wrote:
Also, it's just a diversion on your part, anyway. You don't want to talk about the issue, so you make it about something you imagine I said, or some misinterpretation/misreading on your part. It doesn't matter, but it does let you derail the conversation into something about me, rather than the issue at hand.
FFS, can you ever stop whining? Not everything has an ulterior motive. I don't give a fuck about derailing anything. What I give a fuck about is your bullshitting. If you can't own what you say, then don't fucking say it.
Your motive is not ulterior, it's overt. All you do is derail. You can't discuss a topic without getting into side issues and debates about all this picayune nonsense.

I own what I say. I did not say what you accused me of saying. You won't let it go, because your goal is to troll and get a rise and disrupt the thread.
pErvinalia wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:
And you just quoted me quoting you where you say "from the progressive viewpoint".
Yes, and progressive is a viewpoint or set of viewpoints.
What I'm trying to tell you is that it's not one that encompasses the fringe shit that you go on about.
It certainly is, and you've admitted as much. You said the SJWs are progressive, you just think they're radical and outliers. Well, the radical portion of a larger movement is still part of that movement or ideology. Moderate progressives and radical progressives are still progressives. You admitted that before.

And to sit here and pretend that the SJWs who conducted the interview of the TA, for example, dont' identify as Progressives is ludicrous. Of course they do. What do you think they are? Libertarians? Conservatives?
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:43 am

Regressives.
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Post by Tero » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:12 am

All 50 senators found to be butt grabbers! Even the women!
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Oops, my fake news failed. 100 senators!

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