There certainly seems to be a lot of hysteria around about sexual/personal conduct at the moment. Surely there is a difference between the exploitation of someone a la Weinstein and either unwelcome or inappropriate advances between two perfectly competent adults. How can that be bad? If you aren't interested just say so. If you aren't sure go with the flow and see what happens. If it is really abusive tell them to fuck off or report them to someone.
There is a certain lack of proportion around all this at the moment.
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
Such a touchy issue... 
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
I'm really worried that it will fuck House of Cards up.
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
Ah, I've just seen that it has been cancelled.devogue wrote:I'm really worried that it will fuck House of Cards up.
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
Feminists say men and women are the same, and should be treated equally, don't they? Or, are they saying that women should be treated more gingerly than men? Go ahead and put your hands on men's knees, no biggie. But... you can't do that to a lady. It just isn't proper.Brian Peacock wrote:Yeah, men and women are the same, so if men are OK with it so women should be as well.
Seriously, though, there is nothing that "men" find o.k. and "women" find not o.k. Some women like this or that, and some men like this or that. If the individual whose knee was touched says she's fine with it, then shouldn't that be the end of it? Men and women are allowed to interact how they see fit, aren't they?
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Woosh.Forty Two wrote:Feminists say men and women are the same, and should be treated equally, don't they?Brian Peacock wrote:Yeah, men and women are the same, so if men are OK with it so women should be as well.
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
If you're in your mid to late twenties, and good looking, you can touch up most women, and they will love it.
Go forward forty years and put on fifty or sixty pounds, a lot of it round the face, and they get offended.
It's a mystery, to be sure.
Do these rich cunts have no mirrors in their houses?
Go forward forty years and put on fifty or sixty pounds, a lot of it round the face, and they get offended.
It's a mystery, to be sure.
Do these rich cunts have no mirrors in their houses?
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
I'm offended by people thinking this is a big issue when people are being blown to bits in Mogadishu.Brian Peacock wrote: Again, we're seeing somebody being offended on behalf of somebody else, and then another person swinging by to chip in about how being offended on behalf of somebody else is a problem for society that's actually caused by people chipping in about how people chipping in about people being offended on behalf of somebody else is a problem for society.
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I gotta hand it to you. You really put your finger on the crux of the issue.JimC wrote:Such a touchy issue...
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Re: Hypersensitivity - Next Victim - Adam Sandler
I never liked Kevin Spacey anyway. Overrated in my book and far too mannered an actor.
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Next Sexual Harasser - Dustin Hoffman
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/featur ... mn-1053466
This one is highly detailed, and it makes Dustin Hoffman out to be just a douchebag. I can't imagine anyone talking like this. He says to her when ordering breakfast "I'll have a hardboiled egg - and a soft boiled clitoris." What does that even mean? He's talking to a teenager - now I don't infantilize 17 year olds. She's pretty much an adult there and stupid sex references and joking shouldn't be that big of a deal. But, from her descriptions, she's getting her ass grabbed by a middle aged guy more than twice her age, and he's the big star on site, and he's acting like a total creep. I mean "did you have sex this weekend like I told you to?" What the fuck is that? How is that even funny? What the heck does Dustin Hoffman think when he's doing this stuff to her - and his 13 year old daughter was working around that same set.
I mean - this sort of thing is ridiculous. I am not sure what to make of it yet.
This one is highly detailed, and it makes Dustin Hoffman out to be just a douchebag. I can't imagine anyone talking like this. He says to her when ordering breakfast "I'll have a hardboiled egg - and a soft boiled clitoris." What does that even mean? He's talking to a teenager - now I don't infantilize 17 year olds. She's pretty much an adult there and stupid sex references and joking shouldn't be that big of a deal. But, from her descriptions, she's getting her ass grabbed by a middle aged guy more than twice her age, and he's the big star on site, and he's acting like a total creep. I mean "did you have sex this weekend like I told you to?" What the fuck is that? How is that even funny? What the heck does Dustin Hoffman think when he's doing this stuff to her - and his 13 year old daughter was working around that same set.
I mean - this sort of thing is ridiculous. I am not sure what to make of it yet.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Re: Next Sexual Harasser - Dustin Hoffman
Not Morrissey lol
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Re: Next Sexual Harasser - Dustin Hoffman
I think Mrs Robinson scared him for life.
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Sir Michael Fallon resigns over past behaviour claims
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon has resigned following allegations of past behaviour.
He said his behaviour may have "fallen short" of the standards expected by the UK military and said it was right that Parliament was now taking this issue seriously.
The BBC understands his decision was not related to new or specific claims.
The PM said she appreciated the "serious manner" in which Sir Michael had considered his role.
Theresa May said she also appreciated the "particular example you wish to set servicemen and women and others".
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Sir Michael Fallon resigns over past behaviour claims
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon has resigned following allegations of past behaviour.
He said his behaviour may have "fallen short" of the standards expected by the UK military and said it was right that Parliament was now taking this issue seriously.
The BBC understands his decision was not related to new or specific claims.
The PM said she appreciated the "serious manner" in which Sir Michael had considered his role.
Theresa May said she also appreciated the "particular example you wish to set servicemen and women and others".
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