Celebrity Sexual Harassment Charge Sheet

[Brian Peacock]

I'm sorry to hear that you were groomed Scot (you were making a direct comparison between yourself and Ms Maxwell, right?).

JFCOAPS. I was not groomed. She was not groomed. Why do you think that? We were adventurous. That's all.
I was BI at 15. I loved sex. I know you cant accept it. I am now 71 that is so long ago. I have no regrets. The only regret I have is I did not do transition.

I was being sarcastic. I'm not saying you're wrong about yourself, I'm saying you can't take what happened to you and just apply it to Maxwell. I'm also saying that things are different for 14 year old girls and 23 year old men than the other way around, and that given what we know about Epstein you can't just assume that because you would have shagged anything with a pulse at 15 that a sexual relationship between a 23 yo adult and a 14 yo child isn't deeply problematic.

[pErvinalia]

In the Netherlands it's natural. Dutch child consent is the best child consent.

[JimC]

I'm sorry to hear that you were groomed Scot (you were making a direct comparison between yourself and Ms Maxwell, right?).

JFCOAPS. I was not groomed. She was not groomed. Why do you think that? We were adventurous. That's all.
I was BI at 15. I loved sex. I know you cant accept it. I am now 71 that is so long ago. I have no regrets. The only regret I have is I did not do transition.

I was being sarcastic. I'm not saying you're wrong about yourself, I'm saying you can't take what happened to you and just apply it to Maxwell. I'm also saying that things are different for 14 year old girls and 23 year old men than the other way around, and that given what we know about Epstein you can't just assume that because you would have shagged anything with a pulse at 15 that a sexual relationship between a 23 yo adult and a 14 yo child isn't deeply problematic.

The differential between male sex with younger females vs older females with younger males may be considered by the PC brigade to be incorrect. However, I think that it is a valid distinction, for a variety of reasons, some of which may be irrational...

[Brian Peacock]

And it's not like 14 yo boys can't be or aren't sometimes groomed or manipulated by older women either - though I'm not at all suggesting that Scot was.

[JimC]

And it's not like 14 yo boys can't be or aren't sometimes groomed or manipulated by older women either - though I'm not at all suggesting that Scot was.

And I'm sure that it can be damaging, as well. However, I'm suggesting that, on average, male grooming and sex with underage girls is more damaging than the reverse. I concede that this may be an old-fashioned view...

[Scot Dutchy]

I would agree with you Jim. The relationship never damaged me and in fact we had a great time and it was a great experience. I personally think it is the attitude of the older partner that plays a deciding role. For me it was my first real taste of true affection.
The big difference with people like Epstein and Maxwell is they exploited and used the girls, which is true of loverboys, for theirs and others gratification.
I also believe for a girl the physical side must be very traumatic.

[BarnettNewman]

Young offender, what's your defence?
You're younger than me, obviously
Will I get in your way, or open your eyes?
Who will give whom the bigger surprise?

[laklak]

I'd have paid good money to be groomed when I were lad.

[Brian Peacock]

Nail scissors, a sturdy comb, and a bottle hair oil wasn't that expensive surely?

[laklak]

A flat top and a stick of Butch Wax was all I needed.

And a pack of Lucky Strikes to roll up in my T-shirt sleeve.

[Scot Dutchy]

Luckies never impressed it had to be French. Disque Bleu was good and readily available in the UK.



Gitane was another one:



The smell alone turned heads.

[Brian Peacock]

Pah. They're ladies cigarettes. Real men smoked Capstan Navy Cut Full Strength.

[Woodbutcher]

Luckies never impressed it had to be French. Disque Bleu was good and readily available in the UK.



Gitane was another one:



The smell alone turned heads.

Those cigarettes were stinky too!

[pErvinalia]

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[Brian Peacock]

A US bankruptcy court judge has approved the Weinstein Co’s liquidation plan, which sets aside $17m for women who accused co-founder Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct.
Judge Mary Walrath, presiding over a remote hearing from Wilmington, Delaware, overruled an objection from a handful of women who have been looking to pursue appeals of their claims outside the bankruptcy court.

She noted that 83% of sexual misconduct claimants in the bankruptcy “have expressed very loudly that they want closure through acceptance of this plan, that they do not seek to have to go through any further litigation in order to receive some recovery, some possible recompense ... although it’s clear that money will never give them that.”

The Weinstein Co sold its assets to Lantern Entertainment, which later became Spyglass Media Group, for $289m after it filed for bankruptcy in 2018...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... iquidation