Stocks in trump era

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Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:11 am

Good investments for stock holders and 401K plans, Jan 2017 to now. Wall street types were waiting for a gift. Tax cuts. Still waiting. Trump has a track record of losing track, losing the ball at the last minute.

Markets stalled:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5Eixic?ltr=1

Up to you folks. Sell stock if you think this is it. End of the fun.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:13 am

Stock tip: never buy communications stocks
Charter Communications, Inc. 316.29 -28.62
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:01 pm

there was a one day jump
jumping the gun on slashing corporate tax?
NASDAQ Composite (^IXIC)
Nasdaq GIDS - Nasdaq GIDS Delayed Price. Currency in USD

6,645.57 ...+88.79
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:43 pm

Who cares what the markets do on any given day? --gamblers, wealthy shithead fund managers?
Stock tip: never buy communications stocks
Charter Communications, Inc. 316.29 -28.62
People who bought it in 2009 for less than 40 don't give a shit.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:01 pm

"The Americans from the North, at least the great part of those I have seen, eat only salted meat, bread made by themselves out of corn meal, coffee, and homemade cheese. To these the greater part...add strong liquor, for they are in general, in my opinion, lazy people of vicious character. " --José María Sánchez ~1827

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Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:10 pm

I hear all that spoken in Trump Voice. Time to take a Trump vacation for a day.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:19 pm

Yeah, if you're so obsessed that you find yourself wanting your guy to be the cause of a bull market, and the other guy its correction, then you probably do need a break.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:22 pm

When he starts haunting your dreams Tero, that's when you know you need to step back. ;)

Stocks are a bet on future value. The mistake is to assume that the economy is healthy, balanced, and well regulated because traded assets are high - this couldn't be further from the truth.
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Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:43 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:Yeah, if you're so obsessed that you find yourself wanting your guy to be the cause of a bull market, and the other guy its correction, then you probably do need a break.
Presidents and other election do affect the market.
http://www.kiplinger.com/article/invest ... arket.html

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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:47 pm

So, Trump's just the guy to bring the market more in line with actual values. --got it
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Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:11 pm

Well, that, or a bubble. The Bush to Obama transfer was a housing banking bubble.
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Post by Forty Two » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:13 pm

Tero wrote:
Sean Hayden wrote:Yeah, if you're so obsessed that you find yourself wanting your guy to be the cause of a bull market, and the other guy its correction, then you probably do need a break.
Presidents and other election do affect the market.
http://www.kiplinger.com/article/invest ... arket.html

I look at my 401K plans all the time. Or once a month if they are in no risk stage. They were in non stock all of Obama last 4 years.
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Post by Tero » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:06 pm

It's OK to go with the yo yo up and downs. They are slow, like ice ages almost. You may make more money keeping the money in stocks in the 30-40 years of your life. You can't take the money out till you are 55 anyway. So that is the stock advice to the young. I do not follow any of the instructions past that. Your mutual fund company wants you to keep money in stocks till you are dead. Your heirs can play with it then.
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Tero » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:44 pm

Stocks / economy growth will slow down. By the end of Trump 4 years, maybe back to none.
“Politicians are going to declare a victory on this. That’s fine and that’s what politicians do,” said Credit Suisse’s Jonathan Golub. “But has this changed long-term trajectory for GDP? No. This is a period of nice, healthy-feeling cyclical growth not yet accompanied by inflation. That’s very different than having a structural change in output.”

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Federal Reserve both project long-term GDP growth of just under 2%.

Deutsche Bank’s Torsten Sløk explained that while a significant tax package out of DC in the coming weeks could move growth to stay close to 3% in 2018, many questions remain about the sustainability of that growth, especially given that we’re in year eight of a recovery.

“Expansions begin to slow down when they get older. And the historical pattern is also that the longer the expansion lasts the higher is the probability that we will soon get a recession,” he explained.

Meanwhile, Sløk explained that the response from the Federal Reserve to moderate growth amid rising inflation could also put a damper on long-term projections.

“Higher growth is always associated with higher inflation, and if inflation moves faster up toward 2%—as we, the Fed, and the consensus expects—then the Fed will have to raise rates faster to cool down the economy,” Sløk said. “The Fed would like to see 3% GDP growth for the next decade but they just don’t believe it would be possible because such a high level would lead to overheating the economy.”
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Re: Stocks in trump era

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:01 pm

Stocks can be high in a time of economic deprrssion (as indeed they are).
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