Drug prices

[Scot Dutchy]

I never have to wait for a GP appointment.

[Rum]

I never have to wait for a GP appointment.

Well of course you don't.

[Scot Dutchy]

Why jealous? The NHS could have been as good if it was not a political football. It should like education and social services be above politics. Anyway after Brexit it wont exist. The Americans will have moved in.

[Rum]

Well of course I'd like a better service here. I'd be stupid not to. I'd also be stupid t expect anything but the sort of response from you that you provided.

But if you think Education and Social Services are not a political football you are in cloud cuckoo land. They are in every country more or less. You just happen to have a more socialist one than we do so there isn't quite the same level of wrangling over them.

You do pay more tax of course.

[Scot Dutchy]

It is not a political football. Why do you find that so difficult? We have state education. The levels of which are predetermined as is health and social services. You just dont understand or find it incomprehensible. Money will always be found. We realise the three pillars of society; health, education and social care. The biggest difference we will compromise and at all levels of society. You only have disputes. It is inbuilt in English society as it is historical. We are a middle class society and you are one of elitism. It is not exactly criticism but evolution of our two societies. Just try to think in a different way. When working I had always the right to criticise management. I could do without any fear. That was the law. We have workers councils. It is a totally different concept of employer and employee relationship.

[pErvinalia]

We realise the three pillars of society; health, education and social care. .

Seth told me that they were money, the individual, and guns...

[Scot Dutchy]

In Seth's world they are.

[Forty Two]

I never have to wait for a GP appointment.

I don't either.

[Alan B]

Went to my see my doctor this morning. While waiting I read a notice that said they are no longer accepting new patients because of overwork (not enough staff). Close relatives of existing patients and students returning from Uni. are OK.

So, if you move into the area, well, tough...

[Forty Two]

Capitalism allows such restrictions, yes. Not all capitalism is free market capitalism.

Yippeee!

Thank you for admitting that you've been wrong. Free market Capitalism is a contradiction in terms.

Yay!, I win.

Only, I did not admit that. What are you on about? Saying "not all capitalism is free market capitalism" doesn't make free market capitalism a contradiction in terms. Some capitalism is free market, and free market doesn't mean anarchy and never meant anarchy and never meant lawlessness or lack of a legal framework. This is all something you've created - you've decided that "free market" must mean "without any law or commercial regulation, etc." and then declared capitalism a contradiction in terms with "free market" because capitalism has laws and regulations. Only, that's horseshit, because "free market" doesn't mean what you say it means.

Your assertion was that "capitalism" distorts the market in the example where a medical device company manufactures a product and sells it at different prices in different markets. In that situation, please explain how "capitalism" distorted the market?

Also, are you equating capitalism with "free trade?" It's not the same thing. Capitalism is an economic system wherein property, business and industry are largely held in the hands of private individuals and groups.

No, you did. I was the one that pointed out that they were incompatible. I'm pleased that you've now come around to the same conclusion.

They're not "incompatible." There are different kinds of capitalism. You can have capitalism which is free market, but that doesn't mean all capitalism forms must be free market.

I did explain to you that capitalism distorts the market by restricting free trade across borders. How is this difficult to understand?

Capitalism does not have to restrict free trade across borders. That's why "free trade agreements aim to reduce or eliminate the commercial relevance of borders.

Also, the main purpose of restrictions across borders is to account for different legal regimes and economic statuses of the different countries. If you have a Singapore compared to a North Korea trading with each other, the idea should become apparent to you. These are separate economies, so you can have free trade within an economy without there being free trade globally.

[Forty Two]

Went to my see my doctor this morning. While waiting I read a notice that said they are no longer accepting new patients because of overwork (not enough staff). Close relatives of existing patients and students returning from Uni. are OK.

So, if you move into the area, well, tough...

That happens from time to time in my area with popular doctors. However, there are plenty of doctors around accepting new patients.

[Sean Hayden]

Went to my see my doctor this morning. While waiting I read a notice that said they are no longer accepting new patients because of overwork (not enough staff). Close relatives of existing patients and students returning from Uni. are OK.

So, if you move into the area, well, tough...

They'd have more time if the ninny types didn't rush to the doctor for every little thing. What happened to only going to the doctor for a regular checkup, and if you're loosing a limb? Why, when I was boy...

[Alan B]

I have been with this doctor for 13 years in a well established population demographic. This is something new.

[Forty Two]

Obviously, since you're his patient now, the "not accepting new patients" thing does not apply to you. If he's full-up, you can't expect the guy to have a "come one come all" policy. New patients can see someone else, can't they?

[Sean Hayden]

I'd have a regular doctor if I had a regular problem. Otherwise, I'm content to bounce around wherever insurance allows. I do wish it were easier to keep one doctor for my kids. It's nice to have the same doctor for them for several years just because they do have to see a doctor more often than me.