Republicans

[Brian Peacock]

Fuck the pursuance of truth, it's election time!

It's been rather obvious for some time that the Republicans on that committee were never pursuing the truth. From the oleaginous toady Nunes on down, they've been stonewalling for Trump.

Surely they realise that attempts to systematically undermine democratic institutions & processes are a non-partisan issue, an issue which is fundamental to ensuring the integrity and proper function of a free and and fair society? Politicians and their constituencies inhabit the same society - whether they like it or not.

To be fair, both main US parties have been far more comfortable to fall back to the normal partisan sneering, finger-pointing and blame-shifting than acknowledging the wider implications of 'that Trump-Russia thing'. Politics appears to be locked into groundhogging the same script regardless of what's on the never-ending conveyor belt of pressing matters. The 'issues' go sliding past now, and hardly anyone gives them a second glance - hardly anyone. And who can blame them, or us, when some of those matters are as massively, scarifyingly important as they are complicated and/or expensive. I'm rambling...

Still, this is an issue that isn't going to go away. How can it? As a so-called 'new normal' it's completely unsustainable. Our elected Representatives have to be educated to the point of understanding one of the most important lessons of history; that what turns out to be in our best interests is actually in their best interests too, not the other way around. And as a society, the integrity and good working order of our democratic institutions & processes is fundamental to a comfortable, peaceful existence.

[Seabass]

To be fair, both main US parties have been far more comfortable to fall back to the normal partisan sneering, finger-pointing and blame-shifting than acknowledging the wider implications.

Funk that. This is not a "both sides" problem. The Democrats, despite their faults, are relatively sane, rational adults for the most part. How are they supposed to lure voters who think abortion is murder and the earth is 6000 years old? The US has the worst religious conservatives in the first world. They cannot be reasoned with. All we can do is wait for them to drop dead and hope their kids are less batshit. How do sane, rational adults work with and compromise with people who are this stupid and ignorant:

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

58% of Republicans are young-earth creationists.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold- ... igins.aspx

68% of Republicans believe in demonic possession.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... esults.pdf

54% of Republicans believe that Obama is a muslim.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... _90115.pdf

41% of Republicans do not believe Obama was born in the US.
An additional 31% of Republicans have doubts about Obama’s citizenship.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e ... on-n627446

6% of Scientists are Republicans.
http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/ ... -religion/

31% of Trump supporters support building a wall on the eastern seaboard to prevent migrants from entering the US via the Atlantic Ocean.
http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-tru ... all-2016-8


52% of Republicans think Trump won the popular vote.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... ular-vote/

52% of Republicans would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump recommended it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... oposed-it/

79 percent of Trump voters say he should remain in office if collusion is proven.
75 percent said the entire Russia story is “fake news."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ld-stay-in


58% of Republicans and Republican leaning independents say that colleges are bad for America.
http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/10/ ... stitutions

Only 45% of Trump voters believe that Trump Jr. met with Russians, even after he publicly admitted to it.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... ussia.html


72% of Republicans support executions.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... r-decades/


49% of Republicans do not believe in evolution.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... -evolution

50% of Republicans believe in climate change.
31% of Republicans believe it’s caused by humans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -maps.html

92% of Republicans support daily prayer in public school classrooms.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/177401/supp ... ghtly.aspx

45% of Republicans believe the ACA includes “death panels”.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... _lies.html

31% of Trump supporters believe that vaccines cause autism.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 00701.html


43% of Republicans say there is a lot of discrimination against whites, while 27% say there is a lot of discrimination against blacks.
https://www.prri.org/spotlight/republic ... imination/

[Cunt]

It doesn't matter which side you take (I've tried on both) they say the same thing, mostly: those bastards are LYING!!!

Both say it badly.

Both are true enough. Having looked at both flavours of media-feed, I can say that both sides are not suitable to lead anyone.

It's really hard to get behind any group larger than some distressingly small number.

Here is my take - have all the politicians get together on a ship. Have all those who align with the 2 or 3 main political parties sort themselves into groups, with lefties on the left, righties on the right.

Then sink the ship.

(I was looking for a way to save the independents, but it just isn't worth it)

[Woodbutcher]

I'm hoping for an armed American revolution, with dozens of factions fighting each other, alliances forming and shifting continuously, with full TV-coverage by CBC and CTV. There could be betting involved by the viewers, the profits going to the TV-stations for better coverage and to replace lost equipment and personnel. The show could be called "Our American Cousins".

[Joe]

Hmmm, a violent civil war in an armed madhouse with a narcissistic fruitcake in charge, and 4000 active nukes, plus 2000 or so more that have been decommissioned but not disassembled yet.

What could go wrong?

[pErvinalia]

Fuck the pursuance of truth, it's election time!

It's been rather obvious for some time that the Republicans on that committee were never pursuing the truth. From the oleaginous toady Nunes on down, they've been stonewalling for Trump.

Surely they realise that attempts to systematically undermine democratic institutions & processes are a non-partisan issue, an issue which is fundamental to ensuring the integrity and proper function of a free and and fair society?

Conservatives don't care about that sort of politically correct nonsense. They are born to rule, not spend their time worrying about the principles of liberal democracy.

[pErvinalia]

It doesn't matter which side you take (I've tried on both) they say the same thing, mostly: those bastards are LYING!!!

Both say it badly.

Both are true enough. Having looked at both flavours of media-feed, I can say that both sides are not suitable to lead anyone.

It's really hard to get behind any group larger than some distressingly small number.

Here is my take - have all the politicians get together on a ship. Have all those who align with the 2 or 3 main political parties sort themselves into groups, with lefties on the left, righties on the right.

Then sink the ship.

(I was looking for a way to save the independents, but it just isn't worth it)

Finally something we agree on. Although, I'd give the Independents a life raft. They better not head to Australia, though. We don't like people in boats.

[pErvinalia]

I'm hoping for an armed American revolution, with dozens of factions fighting each other, alliances forming and shifting continuously, with full TV-coverage by CBC and CTV. There could be betting involved by the viewers, the profits going to the TV-stations for better coverage and to replace lost equipment and personnel. The show could be called "Our American Cousins".

[L'Emmerdeur]

It's been rather obvious for some time that the Republicans on that committee were never pursuing the truth. From the oleaginous toady Nunes on down, they've been stonewalling for Trump.

Surely they realise that attempts to systematically undermine democratic institutions & processes are a non-partisan issue, an issue which is fundamental to ensuring the integrity and proper function of a free and and fair society? Politicians and their constituencies inhabit the same society - whether they like it or not.

I expect that many of them do at some level. However, over the years the Republican party has become notably more partisan and willing to promote the party agenda over national interest. (Though to be fair, in some cases they truly believe that party agenda and national interest are one and the same.) This trend became stronger during the Obama presidency. Those who don't pursue such a course are challenged in primary elections by candidates from the doctrinaire right wing of the party, and Republican voters have become more willing to vote for this sort of candidate. Those Republican voters still are solidly behind Trump by a significant margin, and any hint of what they could perceive as disloyalty would mean problems for Republican members of Congress come election time.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, fuck securing our electoral and democratic processes, there's an election coming!!

[Scot Dutchy]

The American electoral system is so fucked it should be scrapped and have an auction instead. The one willing to pay the most can be president... OH that is how it happens already.

[Tero]

When you own the state...virtually no Democrats...you have to deal with taxes yourself as a Republican:

OKLAHOMA CITY — The Oklahoma Senate on Thursday sent the House a bill that is aimed at wiping out a tax credit that benefited mainly the wealthy.

Senate Bill 1086, by Sen. Dave Rader, R-Tulsa, passed by a vote of 30-10. It heads to the House for consideration.

The measure would eliminate the capital gains tax credit, Rader said.

Oklahoma Policy Institute Executive Director David Blatt said the credit gave those who sold certain property or stock a tax break under certain conditions.

It has cost Oklahoma about $450 million but only generated $9 million in benefit to the state, Rader said.

“This is an extremely expensive tax break benefiting very few, mostly ultra-wealthy taxpayers,” Blatt said.

Rader said elimination of the tax credit would bring in about $120 million annually to the state.

“Not only has this incentive not been accessible to the mass majority, but it has been a detriment to the state,” Rader said.

Sen. James Leewright, R-Bristow, said he was concerned that repealing it would decrease investment in the state.

Sen. Stephanie Bice, R-Oklahoma City, said repealing the measure could increase money that goes to benefit education, health care or transportation.

Medical marijuana bill: Sen. Ervin Yen, R-Oklahoma City, was successful in reviving his medical marijuana bill that died earlier this week.

The measure, Senate Bill 1120, failed Monday to secure the 25 votes needed for passage, falling four votes short.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/governme ... c7039.html

[Seabass]

[Cunt]

Video unavailable. John Oliver wants to get PAID, Seabass.

[Alan B]

Video unavailable. John Oliver wants to get PAID, Seabass.

Yeah. But we can watch it on uk TV.

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